Baden

Cross posted. But that might help if it was in the OP.

@"NOS4A2" I think your approach is fine, but maybe you ought to add a bit to the OP to clarify because not everyone will look at the paper.

The debate isn't whether human beings are animals. They are. That's just a fact. The debate concerns whether we (the persons reading this thread) are ...

@"Wayfarer" Have a look at the E.T. Olson link. There's an animal sitting in your chair because it's a truism that human beings are a type of animal (...

Yes, it is. But that doesn't mean humans aren't animals. I've just had a look at the first paper @"NOS4A2" quoted and the issue is as I've laid out. I...

Humans are animals. That's an incontrovertible scientific fact. You would have to disbelieve evolutionary theory to dispute it. However, it could be a...

5K is alright with me. I mentioned earlier, but no one took me up on it, I'd prefer qualitative rather than quantitative judgements on the stories. Wh...

Aye. :up:

I don't run a car and walk a lot. Now @"Tzeentch" is going to tell me running a car is decadent. I agree. Although if you live in the states with litt...

:up:

No. I know what language is because I've worked in the area most of my adult life. I cited the wiki page because other academic sources were ignored a...

I think if you read this, you will see it's consistent with the wording in my post. (Maybe we could add a few caveats, but that's about it). https://e...

I think most posters here will be willing to read, e.g. the WIki page on language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language "Language is a structured sy...

I understand why you might think that, but sign language just is language. Children who are deaf will, if put together in groups, develop sign languag...

Thanks. That's helpful. I hope everyone reads your post, clarifies to themselves what the literal definition is (the wiki page would be a good start),...

No, they're not. Anyone, linguist or not, may use the term "language" in a metaphorical sense, but linguists of all people know the basic literal defi...

True. And we can reach out into the world in different ways. I like what Baggs does and I find it interesting from an artistic perspective. But I want...

Can you summarize her main point and how it relates to this?

It's the same type of mistake that would claim body language is language by the way. It's not. It's just communication. (That can be subcategorised in...

Bees communicate but it's not through language: https://www.csun.edu/~vcoao0el/webct/de361s41_folder/tsld007.html Provide your academic sources that c...

The whole thread is just littered with equivocation between the literal and metaphorical meanings of "language". Disentangle those and the debate ends...

Oh, he's not really dead. It's sarcasm and irony directed against an annoying interlocutor. But maybe it's all more obscure than I thought. "Bawbag" i...

@"KrisGl" @"fdrake" more or less covered it. What Baggs is doing is not language. Strictly speaking, "language" refers to human language, which has qu...

Hiccups can help sometimes because we get pulled out of our expectations. When we read we're not in one moment but in a kind of spread between past mo...

@"Count Timothy von Icarus" @"T Clark" @"wonderer1" @"Apustimelogist" @"Janus" @"J" @"schopenhauer1" @"Leontiskos" @"Wayfarer" @"Relativist" (I hope I...

Whence the confusion? I was inspired by the idea of answering the unspoken implication of a question I saw in javi's poem. You ought to put more poems...

:sad: Of the dozens of poems I've put here, I write one (absurdly) bawdy one and that's all you remember...

I really like this part---Answering the unspoken implication directly rather than the literal question. And then the end leaves ambiguity as to irony ...

True.

Did you write it? Eso es bueno, senor! :cool: I'm also inspired: Quietly Right And what do you do now? Quite right! I should have listened to me Da I ...

Nice. :smile:

Despite the fact that most of what he's saying is utter bullshit, I can see him coming across as sincere and likeable. If I just remove the words and ...

The funny thing about this is that anyone ever believed the Washington Post's lies about itself. It was a business, is a business, and will continue t...

Anyone else got a request? By the way, literary activity due in December, just over a month. Sharpen your quills. I suggest no polls this time, but ju...

‘K Off to sea in a sieve The Captain said "What gives?" The First Mate saw the blunder “We’re all goin’ under!” “Row this sieve ashore” The Captain lo...

Welcome to the forum! We all need a strategy to protect ourselves from being consumed by consumption. Yours sounds good. I mostly use self-binding. Th...

Farmer Finished by Famished Pig In a tragic turn of events in Devon yesterday, Farmer Bob Bland, head of the U. K. Vegan Society and pioneer in Britis...

Your mama, sweet flowah, she had the powah! You shoulda listened, but ya didn't, did ya?

Weirdsense We brewed up some weird in the Tropic of Skor Pricked a fat fish, its blood we did pour And our mousey children did feast on that wine Grew...

Can weird and nonsense peacefully coexist? Weirdsense?

Nicely done. :smile: :love:

Sometimes I forget I'm not in the Shoutbox and need to adjust myself accordingly. I'll try to make my complaints about AI less boring and predictable ...

Unsurprising. The story for me lacks subtlety. It keeps telling us what should be obvious from the situation itself: e.g. that it's "ridiculous", it's...

Clearly, they slept on the floor then.

Nonsense. Anyone else sleep on the floor?

Funny--that you picked up on that instead of "made you some goodspeak".

Funny enough, (full) "scissors" are always plural, so you kinda made you some goodspeak that time. Edited to remove performative contradiction.

Pass a sauce, please!

So, you're saying it's a win?

I follow where the breadcrumbs lead... (Oh, look, a house made entirely of sweeties! That'll be fun to explore! :party: :death: )