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When you start making excuses for one side, e.g. Hamas, killing civilians you end up excusing the other side doing the same. The people in charge of b...
November 19, 2023 at 16:52
Agree or disagree people? I have no time for anyone who disagrees with this unless they are directly affected by / involved in the conflict in which c...
November 19, 2023 at 16:47
I think it's been explained to you that you can't eliminate an idea and that by killing Palestininan civilians you create more Hamas especially in the...
November 19, 2023 at 16:45
That's frankly stupid and exculpatory. Of course they have a choice. They could have chosen not to kill babies in Al Shifa. You're not worth talking t...
November 19, 2023 at 16:43
Maybe I'm banging my head against a brick wall but I want to say again, the lives of Israeli and Palestinian civilians, especially children, are equal...
November 19, 2023 at 16:39
By the way, to any of those on the Palestinian "side" who think the hostages should be kept as bargaining chips, I say again, get your moral head out ...
November 19, 2023 at 16:34
What question? Why the Palestinians don't want the hostages released? Israel hasn't promised a ceasefire if they are, has it? What do you think the be...
November 19, 2023 at 16:24
The confusion is 100% on your side. How hard is it to understand that civilians should be released when it's written in black and white in front of yo...
November 19, 2023 at 16:21
I just said: Don't distort my point like that.
November 19, 2023 at 16:18
First of all, if I'm Prime minister of anywhere, I work within international law from the start and within a moral framework that balances national in...
November 19, 2023 at 16:13
Of course the, civilian at least, hostages should be released because they are innocents and keeping them hostage is a war crime. Military personnel t...
November 19, 2023 at 16:02
Thinking about how many more Muslims will be radicalized watching those scenes and how much more death and destruction they'll mete out to innocents a...
November 19, 2023 at 08:54
Lol. You don't care about a war where thousands of civilians are being killed but you insist on posting on the thread because you do care that someone...
November 19, 2023 at 07:52
It's a philosophy forum and we debate politics and ethics here. If you're too stupid to know that, that's your problem.
November 19, 2023 at 07:45
Ok, so you don't care or know much about this. The sensible thing would be not to post here then. I consider criticism of those who do care enough to ...
November 19, 2023 at 07:26
I understand that's your viewpoint and it's a necessarily perspectival one. But the people of Gaza can say the same and then what? Are Hamas then bein...
November 19, 2023 at 06:38
If Israel had a bomb they could drop and kill every Hamas member right now and also immunize the area from the idea of Hamas forever, I'd be all for i...
November 19, 2023 at 06:19
You can't "destroy" Hamas by brutalizing the Palestinian people. Hamas is an idea as much as a group. You can temporarily inhibit their capacity to hu...
November 19, 2023 at 06:13
You can't fully eliminate risk to your citizens at any cost. That would justify the killing of every Palestinian if even one Israeli citizen's life we...
November 19, 2023 at 05:39
40,000 Hamas militants who have killed some hundreds of Israelis in recent years are not Nazi Germany who had an army in the tens of millions, killed ...
November 19, 2023 at 05:35
The "bad guys" here are not all on one side; they are on both sides, they are the ones who cannot get their moral head out of their arse long enough e...
November 19, 2023 at 05:30
As I said before, unless you can clarify that you care as much about the lives of Palestinian civilians and also equally assert the Palestinian's basi...
November 19, 2023 at 05:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te1y7ahp2LQ&t=424s Worth quoting at length (from YT transcript): "I'm not pro Palestinian I'm not pro-israeli I'm Pro ...
November 19, 2023 at 04:30
"Children are Children, Whether in Israel or Gaza, they Never Deserve to Die. In the fascist reality now sweeping Israel, even such a statement is con...
November 19, 2023 at 03:32
Speaking of useful idiots, your self-contradictory arguments, strawmen, and tu quoque fallacies represent a neat, if hyperbolic, summary of your more ...
November 19, 2023 at 02:38
Maybe democracies and those who are in favor of minority rights should also be against war crimes? Anyway, honestly, that's it. You are writing nonsen...
November 19, 2023 at 02:14
Yes No, no more than it would be a better place should we kill more Israeli civilians because they support Israel's war crimes. Honestly, you are extr...
November 19, 2023 at 02:12
War crimes are just fine? Ok, thanks for that. Anyhow, most of the casualties are not Hamas. I don't care what happens to Hamas militants. Put them in...
November 19, 2023 at 02:06
/uploads/resized/files/rz/yf9csnrsh7s33pdt.jpg A child killed by an IDF airstrike on a hospital. If you're happy she was "taught a lesson", I again fe...
November 19, 2023 at 01:57
I would prefer to live as far away as possible from people like you. I have met Palestinians. They're human. And I have no sympathy for Hamas who are ...
November 19, 2023 at 01:48
I feel sorry for you. To others who are less homicidal, Palestinian civilians are not Nazis, they are poor, dispossessed and a plurality are more like...
November 19, 2023 at 01:44
If you think bombing a school full of children and e.g. killing them all is justified because there also happen to be some militants in that school us...
November 19, 2023 at 00:58
Here's another thing, if you come at this from the point of view that Israeli lives are more important than Palestinian lives. If you would not make e...
November 19, 2023 at 00:54
Thank you for having the patience to deal with the apologists on here with some basic facts, common sense, and humanity. As has been pointed out, if I...
November 19, 2023 at 00:35
Been perusing some of Churchill's racist quotes. They do sound like the sort of thing Trump would say. Therefore, racism is fine, I guess. The useful ...
November 16, 2023 at 14:19
https://youtu.be/lhBP6ijncKU?si=xUtTogzeMyXc5qIE Good group.
November 14, 2023 at 14:54
Sorry, can't talk right now. I'm currently being captivated by the glorious past. I'm not sure if I'm still in the ruins or in my hotel room. And to b...
November 14, 2023 at 14:37
I was at an ancient temple today. You can get your phone out and point it at the ruins and see what they looked like when they weren't ruins. It's lik...
November 14, 2023 at 14:07
MaAAAARRRRxiiiists :rage: :rage: :rage:
November 14, 2023 at 14:03
This thread is about the current Israel / Palestine conflict. Off-topic posts and their replies are being and will be deleted. + Anti-semites (and Isl...
November 11, 2023 at 07:29
Yes, there's hardly a greater horror then torturing civilians, including children, to death by burying them in rubble or burning them with white phosp...
November 09, 2023 at 12:26
:up: Will come back to this tomorrow. Thanks.
October 29, 2023 at 14:50
Anyhow, your reasoning on close proximity killing was faulty imo because it was based on contingencies that could theoretically apply to either party ...
October 29, 2023 at 14:36
You see the relation though, right? When we achieve some physical and emotional distance from our acts of killing we can start to leverage that into a...
October 29, 2023 at 14:19
If that AND they had reason to believe their bombs would not cause collateral damage. If, on the other hand, they had reason to believe they would, no...
October 29, 2023 at 14:03
Who says either party "want" to do it more? They're soldiers and in both cases doing their jobs. Maybe the bomber gets a sadistic kick out of blowing ...
October 29, 2023 at 13:41
But... the revision (at least) is my thought experiment and I stipulate it's not conditioned by some political situation (of any relevance to the ethi...
October 29, 2023 at 08:47
Well, I happened to be taking the Orient Express to Paris the other day and they were serving these: www.cravethegood.com/next-level-mashed-potatoes N...
October 29, 2023 at 08:38
Yes, but TPF category = Ethics. And the implications to how we think about these things are important imo (they allow advanced states to act under tec...
October 29, 2023 at 06:04
Not to have to focus on politics but on an ethical intuition re methods of warfare...
October 29, 2023 at 05:44