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???????? ???? (aoristos dyas) is indeed in Metaphysics: However, I think it is fair to say that, judging by past performance, “Fooloso4” is not only s...
October 04, 2021 at 01:02
It isn't an issue for me at all. My original comment was in response to the suggested need to "bash one's opponent on the snout." My point was that si...
October 04, 2021 at 00:00
Exactly. They can and they do! The limited may indeed be unable to comprehend the unlimited fully. But it may still comprehend some of it. And of cour...
October 03, 2021 at 23:22
I see. This reminds me of the other canard about Plato's supposed phrase "a noble lie" that of course is NOT Plato's phrase! :grin: But it's good to s...
October 03, 2021 at 23:14
It may be an infringement. Either people have rights or they don't. If they do, then those rights can be infringed. Another aspect of the problem is h...
October 03, 2021 at 23:04
Where in the Philebus does Plato say "indeterminate dyad"? And where does he say that it is a "problem"?
October 03, 2021 at 22:17
If people believe in the Good as a higher principle and live their lives in harmony with what is good, then obviously it can be done. In fact, I think...
October 03, 2021 at 22:09
Unfortunately, I can't go along with mandatory vaccination as that sounds too much like an infringement of human rights. It would be inconsistent to c...
October 03, 2021 at 21:51
That's an interesting point. If someone died as a result of being forced by the state to take the vaccine, should his/her family be entitled to retali...
October 03, 2021 at 21:36
Take them to court, impose sanctions, anything is better than nothing. Otherwise the regime will think that it is untouchable and this can only make m...
October 03, 2021 at 20:58
Metaphysics serves to form a theoretical framework through which the world is better understood and can be used to support ethics making it more persu...
October 03, 2021 at 20:31
True. But those that are vaccinated are supposed to be protected? And I don't see why China should get away with it when that is where the problem ori...
October 03, 2021 at 19:56
Good point. There seems to be a tendency to grant or deny the right to bodily autonomy in line with our political agendas.
October 03, 2021 at 17:16
I think the first problem with that statement is that it ignores the fact that Plato's philosophy is primarily a way of life based on ethical values, ...
October 03, 2021 at 16:36
That seems an unlikely statement coming from the King of England. You can see the text of the Royal Society original charters here: First Charter – Gr...
October 03, 2021 at 15:54
The fact that the concept of unification or union (henosis) occurs across wide geographic and cultural areas suggests that there may be some universal...
October 03, 2021 at 11:29
I agree that Plato is unlikely to have belonged to a secret cult. If he uses elements of Pythagoreanism he does so for his own purposes. But I think w...
October 03, 2021 at 10:29
I tend to agree with Churchill. However, if you ask me, I think the gloves should come off when dealing with China who is the real perpetrator. The an...
October 02, 2021 at 23:09
I don't think I am "vilifying" him though. In fact I tend to agree with Strauss on some points, e.g. on his view that Plato's plan for the ideal city ...
October 02, 2021 at 14:01
It was not my suggestion that he was. I posted the link as an illustration of how the issue of the "Indefinite Dyad" is treated by some scholars. Plat...
October 02, 2021 at 13:18
This is a very apt observation. Personally, I was fortunate enough to be able to read Plato before being exposed to the materialist indoctrination of ...
October 01, 2021 at 23:34
See also: Scott Olsen,The Indefinite Dyad and the Golden Section: Uncovering Plato’s Second Principle – ResearchGate
October 01, 2021 at 12:26
So, you want me to read what Strauss says or what Bloom says that Strauss says??? :grin: Of course Strauss says that Plato’s Theory of Forms is “a fan...
October 01, 2021 at 12:21
And so what? IMO all these so-called "difficulties" are more imagined than factual. If you start from Strauss' bizarre and totally unscholarly premise...
September 30, 2021 at 23:24
That’s exactly where the problem with the Straussian position lies. Strauss purports to “revive Classical philosophy” but the truth becomes apparent o...
September 30, 2021 at 11:10
Good to see that you are talking to yourself! BTW, have you found out where Plato says "a noble lie" yet, or do you require more time? :grin:
September 29, 2021 at 23:32
You seem to be confused. Perhaps you should examine your own solidified belief-system. First, as I said, I don’t see what your comments are contributi...
September 29, 2021 at 11:14
Correct. Gerson's statement "Platonism is philosophy and anti-Platonism is antiphilosophy" is a valid and important observation. Anti-Platonists seem ...
September 28, 2021 at 09:42
On the contrary. Your comment is just another example of YOUR uncalled-for ad hominems. As is well-known, Strauss offers no proper scholarly analysis ...
September 28, 2021 at 09:27
That's Straussianism though, isn't it? As Socrates states quite clearly, when the soul focuses on itself and is itself by itself, then it sees realiti...
September 27, 2021 at 18:07
Perhaps it should. As a matter of fact, ancient civilizations had a different understanding of the concept of "lie". Although telling a lie with harmf...
September 27, 2021 at 17:40
They may or may not be "respected". It is still ad populum and it doesn't make it right. There are lots of "respected" people that hold unsound opinio...
September 27, 2021 at 12:52
Well, there is no surprise there. It has become routine or knee-jerk reaction to accuse someone of being a "conspiracy theorist" the minute they open ...
September 27, 2021 at 01:09
I never said it was. Gerson says that "Platonism is philosophy and anti-Platonism is antiphilosophy" and that there is a growing anti-Platonist trend,...
September 27, 2021 at 00:54
Not true. He simply says that pseudos can have several meanings - as can be seen from Bailly - in general. In fact, his first comment on pseudos is wi...
September 27, 2021 at 00:39
I am claiming exactly what Gerson is claiming, i.e. that there is an anti-Platonist movement led by academics with a political agenda. Strauss is a po...
September 27, 2021 at 00:13
That's an argument ad populum. And not a very clever one, either. The fact is that Lee is a more nuanced and careful reader. And he obviously consults...
September 26, 2021 at 23:46
Noble lie - Wikipedia Popper is a good illustration of how anti-Platonists use the myth (or weasel word) of Plato's "noble lie" to claim that everythi...
September 26, 2021 at 23:29
On the contrary, I think that is what YOU are proposing. You are making false statements and using dodgy translations and sources in an attempt to sup...
September 26, 2021 at 23:11
Or between change or "progress" and existing culture. Gerson says: - Platonism and Naturalism, p. 265 Elsewhere he says: - From Plato to Platonism, p....
September 26, 2021 at 22:46
By your logic, because the LSJ uses English terms not available to Plato, referring to them to resolve the matter is pointless and bizarre - to say th...
September 26, 2021 at 21:54
I just told you! My version is correct because it is the most recent. Yours is 1974, mine is revised 1987 edition with new introduction of 2007. Autho...
September 26, 2021 at 21:30
Correct. YOUR ignorance! :smile:
September 26, 2021 at 20:59
No he doesn't! That’s an old edition. The latest Penguin Classics 2007 edition that I have right in front of me does not have “fraud and deceit” and i...
September 26, 2021 at 20:52
Very interesting. So .... according to you ??????????? and ?????? are one and the same thing? Or is it ??????????? and ?????? Or, perhaps, it is ?????...
September 26, 2021 at 17:59
I think you may be (conveniently) ignoring some important facts: 1. As a general rule, words can have different meanings in different contexts. 2. As ...
September 26, 2021 at 17:48
Lee does not say that. He says: And there are examples where he uses "fiction", "falsehood", and "poetic fiction" at 382d.
September 26, 2021 at 16:34
You seem unable to bring in any evidence that "???????? ?? ?? ??????????? ?????? ??????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ????????, ?? ?? ??, ??? ????? ?????" mean...
September 26, 2021 at 16:04
Of course it does! What other kind of Greek are you talking about? Lee says exactly what LSJ says, "pseudos = falsehood, lie": To begin with, there is...
September 26, 2021 at 15:50
Well, if you can travel back in time and talk to Socrates, why not Lee? Plus scholars don’t rely on just one dictionary, do they? So, perhaps you shou...
September 26, 2021 at 15:21