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I'm trying to get a 'Blue Book' thread going. There are some great quotes there that might inspire you, and I'd enjoy hearing your reactions to them. ...
April 18, 2021 at 21:59
I'm glad to hear it. Please say more if you feel like it, here or on the Blue Book thread. I don't like the image of linguistic philosophers as spoils...
April 18, 2021 at 10:33
Fair enough. But if Vonnegut qualifies his statement too much it's just bad writing. Writers depend on their readers to sort it out.
April 18, 2021 at 10:22
I think Fish is wrong here or only thinking of the academic philosophy game. Are you saying that Epictetus, for instance, can't help people with life?...
April 18, 2021 at 10:19
Sure. It's all about context. As a matter of interpretive skill (always a risk!), I can speculate that Vonnegut meant something like: if you care abou...
April 18, 2021 at 10:14
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April 18, 2021 at 10:01
I agree that the ideal florist does not feel that need. But what of the imperfect florist? The aspirant florist? I can imagine ego-battles at the flor...
April 18, 2021 at 09:19
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April 18, 2021 at 09:13
I love that you mention the second death of the species as a greater terror. I have thought about that too. My secular version of partial immorality i...
April 18, 2021 at 09:13
Yeah, it's a slog. I've never read every page. But I have a paperback that includes the chapter Existential Psychoanalysis, and there are some great p...
April 18, 2021 at 08:55
IMO, it's a personal issue whether they are swept away or not. Take the God issue. For some people, including me, this is settled. Doesn't mean I can ...
April 18, 2021 at 08:51
:up: I agree, and this reminds me of know-how or skill. Explicit principles (from 'folk-psychology' perhaps) can be helpful, but to some degree there'...
April 18, 2021 at 08:37
That does seem to be the way of the times we live in. It's easy to take for granted, but it was a revolutionary idea. I think Athens and Rome probably...
April 18, 2021 at 08:15
:up: Also (kinda what you already said) the very meanings of God, free will, and so on might be there in the actual influences on our shared existence...
April 18, 2021 at 07:20
That song just strikes me as one of the best little pieces of rock'n'roll. Helps folks get to :starstruck: .
April 18, 2021 at 07:12
We might even say explicitly poetic ontologies as opposed to the anti-poetic ontologies of a merely relatively depoetized reason. In other words, even...
April 18, 2021 at 07:07
Maybe you're right. I'm just commenting from my anecdotal experience. My wife has clued me in to a culture (largely feminine) of soft but unironic pag...
April 18, 2021 at 07:01
Seems to me that Witt is doing a kind of negative metaphysics. Philosophieren ist: falsche Argumente zurückweisen. We can trust our blind skill enough...
April 18, 2021 at 06:16
Thanks for this too ! They all fit together for me. I just yanked out my favorites. I like the idea that we fill up the spaces between these fragments...
April 18, 2021 at 06:07
He not busy being born.... Which reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0
April 18, 2021 at 06:03
This heads toward the 'beetle-in-the-box' idea. How can 'pain' have a public meaning? And yet it does (there are right ways and wrong ways to use the ...
April 18, 2021 at 05:16
Should be fun! I just got Classics of Analytic Philosophy to make up for having read too much dirty, obscurantist continental stuff so far.
April 18, 2021 at 04:56
Great quote. There's some taboo-violation there, right? All men are not created equal. This is the dark side of Nietzsche too, with his idea of ranks ...
April 18, 2021 at 04:54
I'm with you on this floating metaphor. The ground is an abyss, an ocean whose bottom is lost in darkness. I'm not sure I'm reading the last part righ...
April 18, 2021 at 04:27
I like the introduction of the childhood theme. Think of adolescent concerns, being funny, dressing well, sports, cheerleading. All quite embodied, no...
April 18, 2021 at 04:24
What is 'height' here? What makes one judgment or proposition higher than another ? Is it generality? That the statement speaks of larger structures i...
April 18, 2021 at 04:05
I really like this and agree. What is it that people hunger for? Some kind of impossible explanation of the whole deal, even though an explanation of ...
April 18, 2021 at 01:34
I've never owned one of his books, but I'm curious about A Spirit of Trust, which seems to be an assimilation of Hegel, finally, in the analytic tradi...
April 18, 2021 at 01:28
Great post! I wanted to get that out before composing a response.
April 18, 2021 at 01:17
I understand Baker's quote. It just seems to stretch the meaning of 'investigation.' The notion of 'Direct Experience' is an epistemic disaster. Think...
April 18, 2021 at 01:16
I think that W would say something like 'we shouldn't take this image metaphor too seriously.' Contrast this with Plato or someone who sees that we ge...
April 18, 2021 at 01:00
IMO, one of his great charms is that thinkers don't get more readable than Witt. His thought is chunked into little sections but often these sections ...
April 18, 2021 at 00:55
:up: She's a cool lady & as you say one of many great observations.
April 18, 2021 at 00:51
I agree with this very much. We just can't give every claim an equal hearing.
April 17, 2021 at 21:49
It seems a little wacky to me too. But perhaps our florist is happy. Then I'd classify it as more of the usual human vanity. The woman probably obeys ...
April 17, 2021 at 21:47
OK. Well I could see it working both ways. People need community, or most people do. I can imagine just being accepted by some group could rescue some...
April 17, 2021 at 21:34
To me this is about the notion of Direct Experience. How does one florist convince another that she too has had the Direct Experience of the world as ...
April 17, 2021 at 09:57
Imagine a florist who develops over many years of dedicated practice the insight that 'the world is a purple rose.' She explains that this truth only ...
April 17, 2021 at 09:46
I'm not one to step on non-threatening spiders, but what's the practical gist of such equality? Is wiping the place where my dog had diarrhea with ble...
April 17, 2021 at 07:49
Same here, and yeah that would be a good band name.
April 17, 2021 at 07:45
I would say that it has that Kantian flavor except that in my imperfect understanding of Kant is that it's too contingent. We can imagine more than on...
April 17, 2021 at 07:44
I agree that the Quest can take a sickly form (certain god-and-antinatalism loops come to mind, but also the less offensive stuff Wittgenstein invente...
April 17, 2021 at 07:25
I think you are right that religion offers some people these things. Calling this 'truth' still seems to stretch the word too much. Many an atheist wo...
April 17, 2021 at 07:21
:up: Do you think there's a complete escape from this structure? Or just intensities of sublimation?
April 17, 2021 at 07:09
I think your point is clever. That said, you are giving us a philosopher's god. This is a late concept, which has drifted from traditional human-centr...
April 17, 2021 at 05:06
:point:
April 17, 2021 at 05:01
I haven't studied metaethics with any seriousness, unless reading lots of Nietzsche counts (for reasons hinted at by the example problems.) I think we...
April 17, 2021 at 04:59
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April 17, 2021 at 04:55