Jamal

I don't think you see quite what I mean by the social or cultural. Either that or you grossly underestimate it. I'm not talking about any old traditio...

Well, maybe. I was suggesting something like the opposite: that the concept of personhood underlies, or at least profoundly influences, our ethical po...

I certainly would not. To me, personhood has nothing to do with brains except incidentally. I suspect this is the root of the disagreements here. Biol...

Thanks.

No, I'm sure you know that's not what I mean by fanaticism. This is really the most important bit from my last post: EDIT: What it comes down to is th...

This is getting tedious. What you described is really basic stuff. It would help you understand our case--if you actually want to--if you assume we kn...

More silliness. Do you seriously believe @"Moliere" and I don't know all that already? There's little point in our debating a rabid fanatic. Calm down...

This looks like a perverse reduction of childbirth to a mechanistic process, ignoring its human significance. Clearly, birth and separation are part o...

I made a passing observation, that's all, and I have no interest in faithfulness to dogma or an agreement with conventional positions for its own sake...

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It's a conservative-only office?

Fair enough. The reason I was so vociferous about it was that such notions are alive and well today. Brendan O'Neill and Tim Stanley were to debate ab...

It isn't any old judgmentalism one can see in your comments. It's the judgmentalism of the conservative who worries about the permissive society and t...

It was more the judgmental attitude in the post, which is very reminiscent of old-fashioned establishment conservatives. You don't seem to have much o...

As the thread's about political affiliation, I thought I'd note that these are very weird words coming from an avowed leftist (or liberal). But I'm al...

@"Hanover" and @"Moliere", your discussion is rather curious. I originally interpreted @"Moliere" as saying that only the person who is pregnant shoul...

It's interesting that there isn't much discussion here of the reasons women have for getting late abortions. In fact there isn't much discussion of th...

Can I ask why it should be illegal, and what the exceptions are or should be? If the answer to the first question has anything to do with the fetus be...

Here you seem to misunderstand me, and I'm not surprised, because if you don't know what a moral agent is or understand its significance, and you don'...

I missed this. Obviously it applies to early-stage embryos too, so it doesn't support the special treatment of late-stage fetuses.

Are we going to debate whether it's debateable now? I'm debating it, and lots of other people take my position--though unfortunately less people now t...

Where do you want us to get to? I certainly don't want to find a middle ground. I think personhood is precisely what matters. The claim that fetuses f...

As I say, I don't see any substantial difference between part of and contained within in this context. It all comes back to personhood: they probably ...

The locus of morality is the individual person and in the relations between individuals. I think bodily autonomy is basic to a person and to being a f...

I'm not sure. The attitude I have to terminating your own pregancy is a bit like my attitude to doing your own brain surgery---but I don't want women ...

It's not relevant to my concerns. Abortion is or should be an ordinary medical procedure carried out by medical professionals. What are you getting at...

That seems about right as far as it goes. EDIT: Though I see no relevant difference between include and contain in this context.

Yeah, there's a tricky distinction here, which I think @"Hanover" brings out quite well in his last post.

Once again, all you're doing is throwing your opinions at me. You haven't offered any criticism of my position that is not simply saying you disagree....

I am not going to spell things out for you. As I said, what you claim follows from my position only does so given a number of other premises, and I re...

From your rather pedantic and obtuse perspective, I can see that.

Don't be silly.

It's a matter of debate, not of inarguable empirical facts as you keep implying. I do consider the woman's body to include the fetus, and I do not con...

Generalized label: God knows. How about "Marxian Libertarian Cornucopian"? Form of government: Democracy, preferably direct. Tyranny can turn out to b...

Moliere could be saying that only those who get pregnant ought to be empowered to decide whether or not to have an abortion, which seems pretty reason...

Yep. I briefly parboil them first, let them cool for a few minutes, then cut them in half and fry them hard. Bacon lardons and pine-nuts optional.

I don't think I've ever eaten kale, but I'm thinking it can't be that bad, being a variety of the Brassica oleracea species along with broccoli, bruss...

No, I've been living in France for a couple of years. In all my time in Edinburgh I never went to the Hogmanay street party, despite living around the...

Merry Christmas to all, and thanks everyone for making this new forum a good place to be. I haven't been participating much of late because of work an...

I don't have time to look out examples, but they're not all that hard to find. The branding, by sections of the Left, of many critics of Islamism (inc...

You say you're turning right-wing, and then proceed to espouse a position that these days is very characteristic of the Left, namely identity politics...

I've only got a few minutes so I'll keep it kind of short. There's been a noticeable surge in affection for Brutalism lately. There have been books, d...

I do miss likes, for some reason. But most people don't want member reputation scores, and like I said in the dedicated thread, it's currently impossi...

Since the software upgrade the subscription system has changed. Previously you would just manually make one-off payments, but now it sets up a monthly...

It's just the way the software works, and I don't know the reasons for that design decision. I am glad of it though. I can recall a few times on PF wh...

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What was the problem? I had to change various DNS settings because the software update required me to use a CNAME instead of an A record, which meant ...

Have you zoomed your browser? I couldn't use this site if I left it at the default size. Ctrl++ a couple of times.

I knew you'd be back!

I think of the original Nazi platform as a kind of radical reactionary corporatism. Defined like that, we can avoid the confusions of Left, Right, soc...