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dan0mac December 20, 2020 at 03:20 6450 views 19 comments
Good evening! I'll be the first to admit I am an arm-chair philosopher. I've made my way through some Plato, Kierkegaard, Berkeley... But I would like to know some modern thinkers who you enjoy so that I can look into them. Thanks everyone!

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Pfhorrest December 20, 2020 at 03:46 #481482
Harry Frankfurt.
fdrake December 20, 2020 at 04:45 #481497
Thomas Metzinger, Hubert Dreyfus. I've been on a David Graeber binge since he died, though he's more of an anthropologist.
Pfhorrest December 20, 2020 at 05:24 #481501
Graeber is great, but yeah not really philosophy exactly. Very informative for political philosophy, though.
TheMadFool December 20, 2020 at 14:34 #481560
My favorite philosophers are

1. Pyrrho
2. Zeno of Elea
3. Epimenedes
4. Nagarjuna
5. Descartes
6. Hume
7. Graham Priest
Rafaella Leon December 20, 2020 at 16:26 #481572
The most general and omnipresent feature of modern philosophy is the confusion between the order of being and the order of knowing. Defining an object by the way we know it is like defining an elephant by the properties of the lens with which we photograph it. The final scheme may be similar, but the material presence of the elephant will always be lacking. In modern times, all tigers are made of paper until the day they eat the philosopher. This error is endemic. It is present in Descartes, Spinoza, Kant, Fichte, Hegel and all of his heirs.
180 Proof December 20, 2020 at 17:21 #481580
Reply to Rafaella Leon The typical conflation-confusion, by idealists (e.g. Plato's misplaced concreteness - reification - of "forms" ... or Berkeley's compositional fallacy of "ideas, perceptions" ... etc), of ontology with epistemology — I agree with, for the most part, except for Spinoza (vide Ethics, part one). An example of his "error"?

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Some (indispensable yet underapprecated) 'moderns' in my canon:

Peter Wessel Zapffe
Emil Cioran
Nelson Goodman
Clément Rosset
Philippa Foot
Albert Murray
Susan Haack
David Schweickart
David Deutsch
Ray Brassier
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180 Proof December 20, 2020 at 18:14 #481595
Reply to tim wood My top three "Spinoza" recommendations (frankly, not academically fashionable - more philosophical studies than applied uses of / deconstructive polemics for-against, S):

A Spinoza Reader, ed. & trans. by Edwin Curley*
Spinoza and Spinozism, Stuart Hampshire
Spinoza and Other Heretics, Vol. 2, Yirmiyahu Yovel

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Also, as a companion to the Reader*, Edwin Curley's excellent interpretative study

Behind The Geometrical Method: A Reading of Spinoza's Ethics
SophistiCat December 20, 2020 at 20:34 #481614
Reply to dan0mac Curious, why would you want to solicit opinions from a few random people on the Internet? If you want to know who the best known or most influential modern philosophers are, you will do much better with Google.
Rafaella Leon December 20, 2020 at 20:37 #481615
The best modern philosophers are Louis Lavelle, Leibniz, Eric Voeglin, however, the best one by far, and very underestimated is Mário Ferreira dos Santos, I don't think there is someone better than him in the last centuries.
dan0mac December 20, 2020 at 22:16 #481622
Reply to SophistiCat Because I value people's opinions. I can learn who the most influential modern philosophers are, but I may miss someone who is not necessarily well known. I consider it 'consulting the experts' in a way.
dan0mac December 20, 2020 at 22:17 #481623
Reply to Rafaella Leon I'll look them up. Thank you!
Antony Nickles December 21, 2020 at 08:39 #481722
Reply to dan0mac
I think the forefront of modern analytic philosophy (not discussing social topics) is Ordinary Language Philisophy, which was reacting to Positivism (among other things), first with Wittgenstein and then J.L. Austin's response to A.J. Ayer. The current proponent is Stanley Cavell, who is ground breaking in his methods of changing our perspectives, and the breadth of its application, though there are others, Cora Diamond, Mulhall. Try an essay from Must We Mean What We Say.
SophistiCat December 21, 2020 at 08:41 #481724
Reply to dan0mac Well, this place may be slightly more expert than the general population, on average, but only slightly. There are hardly any professionals here, a few well-read dilettantes, but most aren't very knowledgeable.
bongo fury December 21, 2020 at 15:47 #481760
Quoting dan0mac
I consider it 'consulting the experts' in a way.


Quoting SophistiCat
There are hardly any professionals here, a few well-read dilettantes,


Well they did put scare quotes and say "in a way".
Rxspence December 22, 2020 at 03:04 #481911
Philosophy
the rules of debate
Methods of reasoning

dan0mac December 24, 2020 at 08:28 #482489
Reply to Rafaella Leon Reply to Rafaella Leon I love all of these responses- 'the only thing I know is I know nothing' etc. I've gotten exactly what I wanted- way too many books and authors to read. Thank you y'all so much, I'll get cracking!
dan0mac December 24, 2020 at 08:34 #482490
Reply to fdrake I have noticed nowadays there is a very tangible intersection of anthropology/archaeology/philosophy I find very interesting
180 Proof March 30, 2022 at 05:55 #675463
Quoting 180 Proof
Some (indispensable yet underapprecated) 'moderns' in my canon:

[i]Peter Wessel Zapffe
Emil Cioran
Nelson Goodman
Clément Rosset
Philippa Foot
Albert Murray
Susan Haack
David Schweickart
David Deutsch
Ray Brassier[/i]

Also ...

Quentin Meillassoux
R.S. Bakker
Victor Stenger
Walter Kaufmann
Martha Nussbaum
Thomas Metzinger
Max Scheler (new to me!)