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A mildly irritating statement

Sunnyside October 07, 2019 at 06:45 3900 views 12 comments
I've been listening for awhile but lately I've been bored so I'll try throwing something out as a conversation piece.

The study of people is the only true science.
Mathematics is an abstraction of reality.
Aphorisms lie in the heart of philosophy.

Anyone care to have a go?

Comments (12)

Shamshir October 07, 2019 at 07:55 #338964
Why are they irritating?
Sunnyside October 07, 2019 at 15:10 #339102
Reply to Shamshir
Philosophers can make argument with anything. I figured it didn't matter what I said someone would take issue with it.
Shamshir October 08, 2019 at 05:09 #339398
Reply to Sunnyside Indeed, most anything. Ironically, my question fits the bill.
schopenhauer1 October 08, 2019 at 13:40 #339525
Quoting Sunnyside
The study of people is the only true science.


This goes along with that

Quoting Sunnyside
Mathematics is an abstraction of reality.


I believe that these two sentiments taken together can be construed as saying that man is the measure of things. It has wafts of Kant. But it could also be about importance of understanding humans above all else. My most asked question is why people procreate more people, especially if there is suffering? Most people will throw out happiness or something like that. But it's the most important question- more important than suicide. Procreation is about why continue life in general whereas suicide is about why continue your life only.

Quoting Sunnyside
Aphorisms lie in the heart of philosophy.

I find some of the most informative philosophical statements to be aphorisms (pace Schopenhauer and E.M. Cioran).

Fine Doubter October 08, 2019 at 16:33 #339619
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Sunnyside October 08, 2019 at 22:34 #339710
Reply to schopenhauer1 Quoting schopenhauer1
My most asked question is why people procreate more people, especially if there is suffering? Most people will throw out happiness or something like that. But it's the most important question- more important than suicide. Procreation is about why continue life in general whereas suicide is about why continue your life only.

You think what's most important is people not having children and thinking about suicide?

I wouldn't say man is the measure of things since I believe there are external realities--truths--that have some say in what's valuable, sort of like Godel's incompleteness theorem. Personally what I mean by the first statement is that human nature is critical to understand since what is practical must ultimately be based in what is real. Continuing on that thought what isn't is a pipedream.
Sunnyside October 08, 2019 at 22:35 #339712
Reply to Fine Doubter An astute observation.
Valentinus October 08, 2019 at 23:18 #339731
Yours is an interesting approach. Aphorism is not like argument in that the expression of something problematic is not an argument for it.
Kafka's Reflections upon Sin, Hope, and the True Way is very different than the aphorisms written by Nietzsche but they share the use of ambiguity as a means to goad the reader.
Sunnyside October 10, 2019 at 15:31 #340333
I guess I'll just use this thread to post aphorisms/thoughts then.

Only you can make you happy.
Most people don't understand themselves.
All experience being subjective does not mean external reality is imaginary.
Sunnyside October 11, 2019 at 22:21 #340870
Life is a process---there is no intrinsic meaning.
Examine thyself!
What I claim to know I know not and likewise only know that which I do not realize.
Sunnyside October 13, 2019 at 16:22 #341617
Worry is pointless---you cannot change the past nor do you know the future---quit worrying!
There is a primal instinct in man which seeks a path to follow, a way of living his life.
Reason is truth's light.
Sunnyside October 21, 2019 at 14:20 #344018
Humor carries the conversation.
Learning is more important than knowledge.
Society decides no one's value.