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AFSCME Endorses Clinton

Moliere October 23, 2015 at 18:42 4350 views 8 comments
Perhaps it's a bit niche, and it's certainly not unexpected, but it still makes me sad.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/afscme-endorses-clinton-215111

Time to head to the liquor store. At least it's Friday. Oi. How disgusting.

Comments (8)

discoii October 23, 2015 at 18:45 #534
I'm not surprised, their leadership has always been a bunch of reactionaries. When I worked at an AFSCME shop, it was literally no different than nonunion shops, except they took money out of my check every week.
Moliere October 23, 2015 at 18:50 #535
I suppose a part of me had hoped that all the hustle and bustle of leftism might influence working class institutions. It's certainly had an effect on this election cycle. I mean, at least wait until the primaries are over if you plan on doing it. . . but, no, they hope to get something out of an early endorsement. [but, these days, what that "get something" amounts to is crumbs -- some barely better appointees in the NLRB and 8 year waits until the dem is a lame duck to "start conversations on labor" -- which is surely better than nothing, but certainly no legislative pushes]

Though I suppose, in the end, this has more to do with membership activity than not. A militant movement makes for militant leadership.

Still... made me disappointed, at least.
BC October 23, 2015 at 21:49 #613
I would have been very very surprised if AFSCME had endorsed Bernie Sanders. Perhaps some locals have been a dash of red sauce, but most of them are rancid deep-fat-fried.
Moliere October 23, 2015 at 21:54 #618
Reply to Bitter Crank Was it too much to hope that they'd at least wait until the primaries were over, though?

I mean -- the left-ish talk of Clinton only came about because of radical leftists making a scene, ya'know?
Moliere October 24, 2015 at 00:09 #654
9 beers and 3 shots of JD later. . .

Goddamnit, I am so disappointed in American politics -- and especially American labor politics. . .


So much effort, so little effect.... even a return to FDR-style politics would have satiated me. But what we get is so sad.

Where should I move to?
discoii October 24, 2015 at 14:35 #828
Reply to Moliere FDR-style politics, as in there's a militant communist movement about to overthrow the government, and also Bush's grandfather leading a fascist charge at an attempt at a coup? Looking around, the fascists are rising, but not the commies...

So, the answer is you should move to another galaxy.
Moliere October 24, 2015 at 14:43 #829
Reply to discoii Hahah.

I know that's where it came from. But, no, that's not what I mean. I just mean that perspective -- a push for, for instance, the WAGE act would have been great. Changing the "middle class" lingo to "working class" lingo ,and an end to the neoliberal assumptions which Carter began.
Moliere October 24, 2015 at 14:44 #830
Something that's not more of the same. But I hear you. It's true that the right-wing is well organized and is increasing across the globe. Another galaxy might be nice. ;)