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Agustino June 30, 2018 at 09:30 9050 views 44 comments
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Why did @Buxtebuddha get banned? I am disappointed with this decision, I don't think he deserved it. Someone recently alerted me to it and mentioned he had some great posts in the past few months. As I haven't been active, I thought I had to come and check it out.

Like this post for example - https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/186710 . It's rare to find such incisive comments which get to the heart of the matter. This place quite often is filled with people who put only a finger in the honey pot - my God, it's rare to get one who puts his whole hand in there. Most people just want to pretend to help, instead of providing real help. I think we should accommodate eccentricities, not exterminate them. Extermination of difference will only lead to the degradation of this community.

I mean who cares that he told @Maw to go suck his own Johnny Walker? Even the White House Communications Director used to say the same thing... And maybe it was actually good advice...

Anyway, just thought I'd let everyone know my thoughts. I don't think acting in this manner will be productive for our community in the long run, that's all. Thanks. *vanishes*

Comments (44)

Michael June 30, 2018 at 09:32 #192495
Quoting Agustino
Even the White House Communications Director used to say the same thing


And he got kicked out too. We're just following Trump's lead. He is the President after all and deserves our loyalty.
Michael June 30, 2018 at 09:34 #192497
Also you spelled "Buxtebuddha" wrong in your image.
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 09:38 #192498
Quoting Michael
Also you spelled "Buxtebuddha" wrong in your image.

What about the title?
René Descartes June 30, 2018 at 09:46 #192499
[Delete] @Baden
Michael June 30, 2018 at 09:49 #192501
Quoting René Descartes
Any moderator reading this, please know that I dont want to go to the Gulag, and that all of this was "sarcasm".


Quoting the word "sarcasm" makes it seem that you're being sarcastic in calling it sarcasm. Now I don't know what to think.
René Descartes June 30, 2018 at 09:50 #192502
[Delete] @Baden
René Descartes June 30, 2018 at 09:52 #192503
[Delete] @Baden
Michael June 30, 2018 at 09:56 #192504
Reply to René Descartes Don't worry, nobody is thinking about banning you.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 10:13 #192506
Quoting Agustino
I think we should accommodate eccentricities, not exterminate them. Extermination of difference will only lead to the degradation of this community.


So, what's the norm here if we're talking about eccentricities?
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:16 #192507
Quoting Posty McPostface
So, what's the norm here if we're talking about eccentricities?

There is no norm, they are eccentricities.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 10:17 #192508
Quoting Agustino
There is no norm, they are eccentricities.


Eccentricities exist on a spectrum of deviating from some norm, no? So, what's the norm?
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:18 #192509
Quoting Posty McPostface
Eccentricities exist on a spectrum of deviating from some norm, no? So, what's the norm?

By eccentricities I referred to actions which are peculiar to an individual (such as some swearing is to Buxta), but which are otherwise irrelevant - they don't cause any harm.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 10:23 #192514
Quoting Agustino
By eccentricities I referred to actions which are peculiar to an individual (such as some swearing is to Buxta), but which are otherwise irrelevant - they don't cause any harm.


Depends on the context. But, I had nothing against Buxte, just that he became increasingly hostile and grudging against a particular moderator, upon being notified that he was put on 'probation', which is a horrible thing to tell someone on an online forum, and hope we can do away with it, if at all possible.
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:30 #192516
Quoting Posty McPostface
But, I had nothing against Buxte, just that he became increasingly hostile and grudging against a particular moderator, upon being notified that he was put on 'probation'

Come on, did you or the moderators really expect Buxta to stop? Then he wouldn't be Buxta anymore. So I don't buy this. Whoever gave the warning did not expect him to stop, and gave the warning on purpose, knowing the end. People here are not dumb.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 10:37 #192518
Quoting Agustino
Come on, did you or the moderators really expect Buxta to stop?


So, we ought to be more tolerant to people who become increasingly intolerant to others opinions? That's not a stable equilibrium by any means.
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:41 #192519
Quoting Posty McPostface
So, we ought to be more tolerant to people who become increasingly intolerant to other's opinions? That's not a stable equilibrium by any means.

I don't think he was intolerant, I think it was just his style.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 10:42 #192520
Quoting Agustino
I don't think he was intolerant, I think it was just his style.


Telling someone to suck your whatnot kinda makes the point clear, in my opinion.
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:44 #192521
Well, to be honest, @Maw is FAAAR more intolerant than Buxta, even though he doesn't swear.
Erik June 30, 2018 at 10:45 #192522
Reply to Agustino

Maw doesn't swear? Are you kidding me!
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 10:45 #192523
Anyway, I don't know all the details. It would be nice if we could accommodate everyone on this forum; but, maintaining it and not getting paid for doing such a task entails some things, if you know what I mean?
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:47 #192525
Quoting Erik
Maw doesn't swear? Are you kidding me!

That's what happens when you're not around for awhile :rofl: Maybe I was spared because I stopped posting roundabout when Maw made his return.
S June 30, 2018 at 10:47 #192526
Reply to Agustino I disagree. He would still be himself, just a refined version of himself. The moderators are pretty tolerant here - although they do seem to have become increasingly less so in my assessment, which is something to think about - so would the changes required of him really have been so drastic? You've got to draw the line somewhere, and if he overstepped it, then he had a choice to make about what's more important to him. I was faced with a similar choice, and, like Heister, I stuck by my guns. But if you go down that road, then you should be prepared for where it will lead. I was, and I hope that he was too.
Baden June 30, 2018 at 10:51 #192527
Trolling, anti-semitic jokes, dick sucking comments, ignoring warnings,, laughing at being warned and so on. Again, most of the reason he's been banned has been deleted or happened by PM. It's unfortunate that people don't take that into consideration before jumping to the conclusion that we're draconian. We're not.
Erik June 30, 2018 at 10:57 #192530
Quoting Agustino
That's what happens when you're not around for awhile :rofl:


Well I'm second-guessing myself now, but I'm almost positive I've seen him drop expletives here and there. I do it too occasionally. One possible difference, perhaps, is that I don't think he (Maw) directs them at others as insults.

Anyhow I'm bummed Buxte is gone as I felt he made some valuable contributions to this forum.

That's a good point though about making possible concessions to the idiosyncrasies of certain longstanding posters. Or even newer but high quality ones like my old friend, Thanatos Sand. But I also get the need to be consistent with the rules and not apply them selectively.
Agustino June 30, 2018 at 10:59 #192531
Quoting Erik
Well I'm second-guessing myself now, but I'm almost positive I've seen him drop expletives here and there.

Yeah, I just meant that I wasn't around, so I wouldn't know. I added to my post:

Quoting Agustino
Maybe I was spared because I stopped posting roundabout when Maw made his return.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 11:00 #192532
Quoting Baden
anti-semitic jokes


Hmm, you guys must do an excellent job on covering that issue because that would be inconsistent with my mental picture of Buxte as he had a low view of Palestinians from a topic in the shoutbox that I followed and in my view started this whole issue. If true then it was a typical case of stopping a troll from getting his fix.

In other words, I agree with the decision given the above.
MiloL June 30, 2018 at 11:05 #192534
More clear indication that its all in ones TARDIS yet we continue to view existence as though everyone else shares our TARDIS. Never forget that even the person standing next to you will never see what you see.
Baden June 30, 2018 at 11:06 #192535
@Agustino

And there was discussion in the mod forum where the mod who banned Buxtebuddha asked several times if there were any objections. And this was the second time we had such discussions over the past year or so. The last time some mods stood up for Buxte and we didn't ban him. This time no one did and we did. It was an extended process. I might add that only about one in ten of Buxte's posts was of any quality at all imho, so I don't feel we've lost in that respect. Although, we have lost some diversity, I guess.
Shawn June 30, 2018 at 11:09 #192538
So, when are you becoming a mod, @Agustino?
Baden June 30, 2018 at 11:33 #192540
And before anyone asks, @Mr Phil O'Sophy asked us to ban him today because he wanted to leave the site. Eventually one of us granted the request. He wasn't warned of a banning and did nothing to deserve one and wasn't banned for disciplinary reasons.

EDIT: I see now that he announced it in the Shoutbox anyway.
Erik June 30, 2018 at 11:38 #192542
Reply to Baden

Lol, why didn't he just leave the site on his own? Darn, I liked him too.

S June 30, 2018 at 11:40 #192543
Reply to Erik TPF Addict?
Baden June 30, 2018 at 11:40 #192544
Reply to Erik

He was an addict, apparently. :) Yes, good guy, genuine. His last discussion was a bit of an unfortunate idea though. None of us are paragons of reason to the extent he might have hoped.

(Cross posted).
Erik June 30, 2018 at 11:40 #192545
Reply to Sapientia

Must have been haha.
S June 30, 2018 at 11:41 #192546
Reply to Erik Aren't we all? :lol:
Erik June 30, 2018 at 11:44 #192548
Reply to Sapientia

:lol:

No offense intended, guys, but while I do have some addictions TPF is not one of them. And I love the place. I like to think I can come and go as I please. Denial?

S June 30, 2018 at 11:51 #192550
Reply to Erik You should up your soma dose.
fdrake June 30, 2018 at 11:53 #192551
Aww. And I PM'd him (mr Phil) a list of browser based solutions. Nevermind.
Erik June 30, 2018 at 12:11 #192554
Quoting Sapientia
You should up your soma dose.


:up: :razz:
Maw June 30, 2018 at 16:41 #192591
I feel like the prettiest girl at prom.
Akanthinos June 30, 2018 at 21:04 #192623
Quoting Maw
I feel like the prettiest girl at prom.


You are. :yikes:

What we see here is confirmation bias. Buxte was low quality racist troll, but he was a pro-life low quality racist troll.

That's all Augustino ever needed to give his endorsement.
Janus July 01, 2018 at 01:57 #192677
Reply to Maw

Ugliest turd in the bowl? :vomit: No, that's right, that honor went to Buxte! Joking, of course... :wink:, should not speak ill of the 'dead', right?
BC July 01, 2018 at 02:28 #192686
Quoting Posty McPostface
but, maintaining it and not getting paid for doing such a task entails some things, if you know what I mean


Do you mean "in lieu of getting paid, the moderators receive the occasional exquisite pleasure of executing an errant philosopher? Like, in the good old days they'd have burnt Buxtebuddha at the stake in the market square after Mass? This being the new times, the youth-perverting philosodeviants are merely expelled from our august company and sent out to beg from the philistines?

Is that what you mean?
Shawn July 01, 2018 at 02:30 #192687
Reply to Bitter Crank

Now, I'm not sure what I meant. :smile: