Cartoon of the day

A Disappointed Octopus

https://www.offthemark.com/cartoon/relationships/love-romance/2020-09-11

Hedgehog in the Fog. From Russia with love and subtitles.

https://www.skwigly.co.uk/100-greatest-animated-shorts-hedgehog-in-the-fog-yuri-norstein/

' Hedgehog in the Fog is the precursor to Tale of Tales and shares many of the same qualities. It has the same bittersweet poetic style and fragmented storytelling containing lots of tiny seemingly unconnected events that the viewer tries to somehow link together to create a meaning, the same way we experience each day, and remember our life.'

Related to William's view that the British royals are 'very much not a racist family' following accusations of racism in Meghan and Harry's interview.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2021/mar/11/steve-bell-on-prince-william-leading-the-defence-of-the-royal-family-cartoon

On Mother's Day :flower:

Do daughters turn into their mothers ?

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/ng-interactive/2021/mar/14/simone-lia-like-mother-like-daughter-cartoon

Quoting Amity

A Disappointed Octopus

At least they'll grow back.

Quoting Amity

Do daughters turn into their mothers ?

My daughter is cranky and stuborn, just like her mom. Of course, that's just like me, my sons, and my brothers too. None of us care much about dust.

Doonesbury was always one of my favorite comics. This is from 1973, one of his best. I never forgot it.

Quoting T Clark

This is from 1973, one of his best. I never forgot it.

Funny the cartoons that stick in the mind.
I remember one I cut out of a newspaper...way back in ancient times.

Two umbrellas in the street: one closed, the other open against the elements.
'That's life. One minute you're up, the next you're down'

Or blown inside-out away by a gust of wind.
The winds of change.

Here's another one of my favorites, from the New Yorker, probably early 1990s. I was going into my boss' office one morning and it was pasted to the door. He had crossed out "Beckton" and written in "Clark."

Quoting T Clark

He had crossed out "Beckton" and written in "Clark."

:smile:
So you were a pain in the neck there too !!

From the legendary Michael Leunig: :smile:

This is an absolute classic Leunig. :smile:

Reply to Pop

Oh. Wow !!
Just love these :sparkle:

Reply to Amity He is a genius! I so envy his ability to say so much with so little :smile:

Quoting Pop

to say so much with so little

You are right. That takes genius :cool:

Zoom Fatigue
https://marketoonist.com/2020/06/zoom.html
Tom Fishburne

I don't do zoom but I love the song :cool:

Reply to Amity Yeah its interesting isn't it. We will now have to evolve to read non verbal communication entirely from facial cues, as the normal body language - the crossing of legs, the fiddling of hands is missing. Its not quite the same, its not nearly as good IMO. :smile:

Leonardo da Vinci's Cartoon
http://www.leonardo-da-vinci.net/cartoon-of-st-anne/

Kept in the dark room at the National Gallery, it inspired a young poet, Elsie Hayward.
https://poems.poetrysociety.org.uk/poems/cartoon/

This love is kept in the dark.
You only visit it, through curtain
Of hush and black, you step
Into a different colour of time.
There is no eye meeting yours,

But a presence echoes softly,
A far-off lullaby descending
Dim staircase of years, reaching
Through layers of silent dark
To put a finger to half-smiling lips.

The bodies are near, their shapes
Too melted, flowing, for time to wrap
And carry away. This is all time.
This is flowers coming to bloom
Beneath ancient, yellowing haze,

This is warmth of lines meeting,
Skin against skin, hidden in coolness,
The softly steel cradle of gentle
Strokes, blanket of tender watch.
This is a first idea of love,

A locket always carried. Somewhere
Outside this small still offshoot
Of the real world, the other threads
Of the tapestry, living reflections,
Closer than is thought.

This is the heart that keeps
The darkness thin.

Language Games: Philosophers Play Pictionary

https://existentialcomics.com/comic/26

Who needs hope when you have penguins... :roll:
According to the flightless hope truther 'letting go of hope isn't giving up. It's realistic'.
Agree/disagree/no comment ?
I disagree: we can be both realistic and have hope...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/12/racked-with-guilt-and-grief-and-climate-despair-how-do-we-go-on

Reply to Amity

What an interesting thread! I want to share this one:



It says: looks like the word GOOOOL is the only one we shout together. This cartoon reflects how the society of Spain is divided by political issues... far from football we cannot be united.

Thanks for sharing :cool:
Quoting javi2541997

This cartoon reflects how the society of Spain is divided by political issues... far from football we cannot be united.

The bottom bubble:
I think it reads: pero no te olvides de guinea escuatorial
Trans: but don't forget equatorial guinea

Is that a hot political football ?

Quoting Amity

Is that a hot political football ?

It is an African country: Equatorial Guinea. It was a colony of Spain back in the day. The bottom bubble says so because sadly this is a country completely forgotten despite the fact they speak Spanish. But they are not famous as Latin ones or Philippines. It is a criticism about how Spanish politicians completely lost and didn’t know administrate to.

Reply to javi2541997
Ta for explanation :up:

http://dresdencodak.com/2009/09/22/caveman-science-fiction/

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/542446-webcomics

Reply to Ying Reply to Ying
I am Progress :smile:

World Peace Machine

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/ng-interactive/2021/apr/25/simone-lia-world-peace-machine-going-cheap-cartoon

'A Short Cartoon about Time' - David Firth (3.21)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idCFV0KF4uo

Would you sell your Golden Years ?
Would you give your Time away ?
The gift of time...

I believe this to be the best cartoon of all time...

Gary Larson - The Far Side - Cows


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8719/16608003937_fff9739c24_b.jpg

Quoting synthesis

I believe this to be the best cartoon of all time...

Gary Larson - The Far Side - Cows

Half right. This is.

Reply to synthesis
Quoting synthesis

Gary Larson - The Far Side - Cows

Hah. Funnily enough a recent walk took me along a path which divided 2 fields of cows and I was paying attention. They were close up to the fence and I felt wary.
I looked into their sad brown eyes and felt pity for them. I felt under close scrutiny too.
I slowed down my pace and talked to them, ''Hello cows, nice cows...''.
And then I listened to some of their voices. The tone of the moos.
Hmmm. Gentle, low moos for the most part but then from the back came a most disgruntled and loud one. A bit like someone frustrated at the end of a long queue. A deeper voice answered from the field opposite - hmmm.
Unfortunately, I couldn't stay to watch the next episode. We never really know the life of a cow...

Farmers might have a clue and the language of cows has been the subject of research:

Quoting Oliver Hill

How do you moo?’ – language of cows cracked by scientists

...They reckon moos are deep and more sonorous when cattle are talking about happy things, such as their food; where as when they are complaining about the weather, their noises are lower pitched.
“We found that cattle vocal individuality is relatively stable across different emotionally loaded farming contexts,” says Alexandra Green, the study’s lead author.
The team think their findings could help farmers improve herd welfare by understanding each cow’s mood through translation of their individual moos.

It’s an interesting idea, but we think these researchers might be milking it a bit.

Reply to T Clark
Your interest in 'barking' has been noted.

Nerd Sniping
https://xkcd.com/356/

Quoting synthesis

I believe this to be the best cartoon of all time...

Its pretty good, but nobody can beat Leunig.

Reply to Pop

That's a lie :wink:

Quoting Amity

Your interest in 'barking' has been noted.

Hey! I resemble that remark.

Quoting T Clark

Hey! I resemble that remark.

Is that a 'woof' I hear :wink:

From: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201211/how-dogs-bark-in-different-languages

....there is no universally accepted sound that humans use to represent dog barks. Even in a single language, there may be a number of different words used for a dog's bark, for example, in English, we recognize "woof-woof," "arf-arf", "ruff-ruff" and "bow-wow." Many languages also have different words for the barks of large versus small dogs, thus "yip-yip" or "yap-yap" are used in English for the barking sounds of small dogs, never for big dogs. The only thing that seems to come close to being unanimously agreed upon about dog barks is that dogs almost always speak twice—thus a Hebrew dog says "hav-hav", a Japanese dog says "wan-wan" and a Kurdish dog says "hau-hau".

...American Sign Language (ASL) ? Both closed fists held horizontally together-fingers in towards each other. Quickly open the fists together to expose the fingers twice.

Like this ? :cheer: :cheer:

Turned sideways...or upside down...where is the emoticon for dogs barking ?
Is this a blatant case of dogism...or what ?

[Edit to add ] Wow. Who knew there was so much out there on 'dogism' ? :roll:

https://journals.uvic.ca/index.php/albatross/article/view/19078/8240 · PDF file

....dogism inspires a new culture and spirituality according to which the murder of dissenting or nonconforming dogs takes on a sacrificial quality. Atticus and his followers, the doggists, come to view their new gift of consciousness as an immoral contagion that must be suppressed or, ideally, exorcised.

With Fifteen Dogs (2015), André Alexis presents the riddle of what it means to be human without prescribing his own solution. The task of deciding which of the hybrid dogs’ behaviours arise from which of their constituent elements—human or dog—is left up to the reader. This essay presents a theoretical exploration of the human-like violence found within Fifteen Dogs.

I argue that the violence exhibited by the hybrid dogs is of a distinctly human quality and is fuelled by a fascistic ideology, which I call dogism. *

Attention is given to two particular manifestations of such violence: the sacrificial culling of the pack and the Garden of Death.

Greek gods making bets over drinks at a Toronto bar? Dogs capable of abstract thought?
With Fifteen Dogs (2015), André Alexis clearly sets out to defamiliarize the familiar.

* author Erin Chewter

Quoting Amity

That's a lie :wink:

You have no understanding! :smile:

And one for the mods. :smile:

Follow up to: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/529106

More moos and moosik. From mentalfloss website:

The Song That Eases the Anxious Bovine Mind Blasting R.E.M.’s “Everybody Hurts” at 5 a.m. might not seem like the best recipe for increased productivity, but it works for cows. Researchers in the United Kingdom have shown that playing slow, melodic songs can reduce bovine stress, prompting cows to produce nearly a half a pint more milk per day than they would without music. Of all the songs the scientists tested, R.E.M.’s ode to empathy led the list of songs that yielded the most milk, especially when played daily from 5 a.m. to 5 p.m. If you are a lonely cow, living in a barn, with your udders constantly being tugged, maybe it helps to know that everybody cries, and everybody hurts, sometimes.

This is just too weird. Posted R.E.M. song here, just a few days ago:

https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/526539

Reply to Pop Reply to Pop
Hah :100:
Ain't that the truth :cool:

Quoting Amity

Ain't that the truth :cool:

Shhhh! they might hear, and relegate the thread to the lounge. :grimace:

'11 Funny Cartoons That Perfectly Illustrate The Struggles Of Modern-Day Living'

https://www.awesomeinventions.com/cartoons-struggles-modern-day-living/

10 Signs You Are a Dickhead (3:24)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6g9zUxDCxk

Martin Rowson on Labour’s hopes in Hartlepool byelection – cartoon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2021/may/05/martin-rowson-labour-hartlepool-byelection-keir-starmer-boris-johnson-cartoon

Yup.

Labour has suffered a humiliating byelection defeat in Hartlepool after the party’s former heartland town elected a Conservative MP for the first time in 62 years.

The Tories won 15,529 votes, with Labour recording 8,589

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/07/hartlepool-byelection-result-labour-starmer-conservatives

Nothing but the Tooth - Winnie The Pooh

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3beg5h

Another Walt Disney.
Also on music thread : https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/540587

A Symposium on Popular Songs is an animated Disney short that originally released to theaters by Buena Vista Distribution on December 19, 1962. It features Ludwig Von Drake lecturing on the state of popular music punctuated by a number of stop-motion musical numbers.
The songs were written by Richard and Robert Sherman, with each song represented a different era in musical history. The brothers considered this one of their favorite Disney assignments.

"The Rutabaga Rag"
"Charleston Charlie"
"Although I Dropped $100,000 (I Found a Million Dollars in your Smile)"
"I'm Blue for You (Boo-Boo-Boo-Boo-Boo)"
"The Boogie Woogie Bakery Man"
"Puppy Love is Here to Stay"
"Rock, Rumble, and Roar"

https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/267
Hume and Avicenna

Quoting existential comics: thought experiment

Avicenna, an 11th century Islamic philosopher, gave his "floating man" thought experiment to prove the existence of a soul, or a transcendent self. He asks us to imagine a person with no sensory experience at all:...
David Hume, six hundred years later, ran through basically the same thought experiment, but came to the opposite conclusion. That there was no such thing as a self without some experience attached to it:..

Thought experiment: what if we took other people's intuitions as seriously as our own?

Lyrics

https://xkcd.com/1538/

The Troll Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy0Bvu7vy9I

Reply to praxis Reply to praxis Reply to praxis

Brilliant :cool:
Each cartoon could be the start of a fascinating discussion.
Who needs a perfectly written OP :wink:

'One mustn't imagine X as being/wearing Y'.
Discuss.

So, how should we imagine Sysyphus ?
How do you imagine this character ?
Do we need to use our imagination - or are we told enough to 'know' ?
Isn't this all down to the usual arguments about interpretation ?
Perhaps art does it better than never-ending debate...

Climate Change

First Dog on the Moon cartoon
Why do we care about wet bulb temperature and could they have given it a better name?
Because we could die and yes.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/16/why-do-we-care-about-wet-bulb-temperature-and-could-they-have-given-it-a-better-name

with BTL comments.

Also this:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/16/climate-scientists-shocked-by-scale-of-floods-in-germany

Gotta love First Dog on The Moon :heart:
( and the BTL comments )

Quoting First Dog on the Moon

If all we have left to us is fleeting moments of joy we better make them good. Like these ones!
Everything is always bad so that is enough thanks no more news. No more sadness. Only snacks and fun.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/26/if-all-we-have-left-to-us-is-fleeting-moments-of-joy-we-better-make-them-good-like-these-ones

Have always liked Paul North's Duckrabbit War.

Two opposing armies converge on a battlefield, strangely with same banner, Duckrabbit. Someone on the ground shouts: "There can be no peace until they renounce their Rabbit God and accept our Duck God."

The vast entries of the subreddit, "I'm Sorry Jon" are hilarious(ly disturbing). It's basically the creep of cosmic horror into the Garfield comic. Garfield became a cosmic entity, a Lovecraftian god, which would haunt and terrorize Jon until the end of time.

Reply to Nils Loc

Thank you. At first glance, I thought not for me...but then...woweee :nerd:

Quoting Nils Loc

Have always liked Paul North's Duckrabbit War.

I couldn't find the cartoon but the message certainly pinpoints the essence of war. Its absurdity and waste of life... for what ?
The cartoon makes you think.
Just as other art; novels, paintings, music...

https://www.thepostil.com/war-and-absurdity/
The article starts with stark painting:
“For What?” by Frederick Varley, painted ca. 1917-1919.
Quoting R.T. Ginn

“They were afraid of dying, but they were even more afraid to show it.” This sentence, from Tim O’Brien’s novel, The Things They Carried, encapsulates the contradictory posture that war imposes on human beings, and this contradiction leads to the recognition that war itself is an absurd act, bereft of any meaning, and existing solely for its own sake.
Thus, war can only invoke and provoke a bleak vision, and an absurdist response, which forms the basis of both Fernando Arrabal’s Picnic on the Battlefield, and Tim O’Brien’s The Things They Carried. In fact, both these works explore the theme of war as an absurd act, in which meaning of any sort cannot possibly exist.

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Did you mean Paul Noth ? This site shows his artwork for sale:
https://condenaststore.com/art/paul+noth

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When I googled duckrabbitwar, I got this guy:
https://www.duckrabbit.info/blog/2011/07/the-war-photographers-biggest-story-themselves/
Article: 'The war photographer’s biggest story: themselves'
'...[i]Something is missing and that’s the Libyans who were also hurt in the attack. What happened to their stories? The stories of the people that the photographers are risking their lives to tell have been written out of the picture...'
And what about the medical team who saved Martin’s life? Nothing. The real heroes don’t count.[/i]

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Turning to Garfield. I had no idea how the cat turned so scary. But now I do:

https://hybridtechcar.com/2019/07/27/im-sorry-jon-how-the-internet-turned-the-cat-garfield-from-the-innocent-comic-book-hero-into-a-lovecraft-monster/

Intriguing - how one artist sees the real Garfield as being exhausted with hidden insanity.
'An immortal who knows the pain of eternal life'.

I see this rethinking or replacing of a 'good' character into a surreal nightmare not so much about immortality but about humans. Again, the question of who we are...the mix.

I enjoyed one cartoon which began in usual 'good' mode and then came the undercurrents.
Quoting Garfield and John

Conversation of John and Garfield over a cup of coffee could end up in that the cat actually controls the master’s mind and inspires the illusion of a normal life.

But John doesn’t suspect anything.

To view, scroll down through the scary collective mind of the internet... :scream:

Quoting Amity

Did you mean Paul Noth ?

Yes, sorry, I should've linked the cartoon at least. An Army Lines Up for Battle

So true.

Latest in English Education System:
Quoting The Guardian: Education

£4m scheme will form part of government effort to counter subject’s reputation as elitist.
According to a British Council survey, Latin is taught at key stage three in less than 3% of state schools, compared with 49% of independent schools.

The education secretary, Gavin Williamson, said: “We know Latin has a reputation as an elitist subject which is only reserved for the privileged few. But the subject can bring so many benefits to young people, so I want to put an end to that divide.”

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jul/31/latin-introduced-40-state-secondaries-england
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Ah, the issue of 'class division' and the benefits of certain subjects to young people.
It made me think of this thread by @javi2541997 which discusses increase violence in the young.
Causes and solutions.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/11504/consideration-and-reciprocity-as-an-objects-to-avoid-violence-in-our-modern-era/p1

We have to develop a better educational system and teach how bad the violence is. I feel we are living in an Era where people literally do not care about harm others. For this reason, it is time to focus on Ethics and provide more empathy along our relationships.

And my response which looked at role of school exclusions and covid restrictions:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/574024

The suggestion by @javi2541997

The ethics class should be prepared as a gift.

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So, I kinda :smirk: when I saw this cartoon and read the BTL comments:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2021/aug/01/ben-jennings-on-latin-and-vaccines-cartoon

Reply to Amity

I just checked it. The cartoon is so funny and how Boris Johnson appears as a Roman Emperor is grandiose.
Anyways, Latin has always been a culture study just for the elites, as philosophy for example. This is why back in the day most of the people were angry due to “lack” of studies opportunities.
But now... as you recommend me to read the comments in the news it makes me feel sad. The most valued comment said: “If YoU FeEl BrItiSh wHy NoT StUdY WelSh?” This is clearly a statement against European values and culture, or at least Mediterranean ones.

In conclusion, probably my plan of preparing ethics as a gift could be a big failure... it looks like most of the people do not want understand anything.

I want to share this cartoon.
It is about Spanish politics. The person with the yellow scarf is an independent politician from Catalonia, called Puigdemont, who literally says: "I do not have immunity I do not have immunity!" because the European Parliament removed his condition of deputy and then Spain could prosecute him.
Nevertheless, the person in the left is our PM, Pedro Sánchez, with a vaccine saying "don't worry I will vaccinate you" because the last month he and the Justice minister decided to put free all independent Catalonia politicians prisoners.

Reply to javi2541997 :up:
Following on from https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/576577

Peter Duggan's Artoons - How Manet got his Monet's worth.

Peter Duggan wonders if a chance encounter with the outdoorsy Monet provoked Édouard Manet into creating his famous painting The Luncheon On the Grass,

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/cartoon/2013/feb/06/peter-duggan-artoon-manet-monet#

'Sands of Time' - the blame game re Afghanistan withdrawal.
[ Note the scapegoat ]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2021/aug/25/martin-rowson-on-joe-bidens-foreign-policy-cartoon

Some BTL comments:

By 24/08/2021, the US have evacuated over 57,000 people within 9 days, while the UK hope to airlift up to 1,800 British nationals, 2,000 Afghans who worked for the UK, and a list of civil society leaders and former government officials compiled at the last minute. The US also evacuated 70,700 people since 14 August, 2021. In a Guardian Editorial, it states that the proposed dates for the US withdrawal were already known at the time of the June G7 conference. Why is British government woeful failure written about by half baked British Columnists across UK Newspapers as US diplomatic failure!? Why is it the first rule of thumb in the UK is to look for an outsider to blame for UK’s failures? I know why there is an ingrained culture sense of superiority, entitlement and victimhood within British ruling class of which journalists and politicians are Birds of same feathers.

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The scapegoat, by Holman Hunt reminds us of how everyone blames everyone else, while the sands of time erode everything.

That could not be truer and this cartoon shows, not a furcup, but a glass cup, loaded, at least in part, with the sort of stones that Biden might love to throw, but it would break the glass, his home, everything.

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Holman Hunt:
https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/william-holman-hunt

Quoting About Holman Hunt artist

While still a student Hunt read John Ruskin's 'Modern Painters' in 1847 and became influenced by the idea of a moral purpose for art. Ruskin also encouraged artists to carefully study nature and Hunt embraced this practice. Hunt's style is easily distinguished from other Pre-Raphaelite painters by the emotional intensity of his characters and his choice of mainly religious and moral subjects.

Everyone was very excited to see the government’s new climate change plan!
First Dog on the Moon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/27/everyone-was-very-excited-to-see-the-governments-new-climate-change-plan

First Dog on the Moon - Cop26 Cartoon

Net zero by 2050 is just snake oil. We need an actual hold-it-in-your-flippers zero
Brenda the Civil Disobedience Penguin says it’s time to crush the net zero con that puts cash over people’s future.
— Guardian: Cop26 Cartoon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/29/net-zero-by-2050-is-just-snake-oil-we-need-an-actual-hold-it-in-your-flippers-zero

Too Much Talking

https://xkcd.com/2134/

First Dog on the Moon
Farm animals
A Sheep Story

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/03/living-with-sheep-it-is-clear-that-they-have-sheep-hopes-and-dreams-they-also-have-sheep-ideas

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More wags and tales in BTL comments. One story about the Babe piglets - for @Shawn !
Another wheeling in the sheep...real funny... and then...

This from 'AwakenstoEmptiness':

If ever you are feeling down and bummed out about the world I suggest spending one of the best 52 minutes of your life by watching the documentary “Wild and Woolly: An Elephant and His Sheep”. You will never look at sheep the same way again I promise you.

*****

A friendship between a baby elephant and Albert the sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qt833YiJRc

About what any job is.

From First Dog on the Moon:
Many folk struggled and it was a tough year but we made it and now here is a cartoon
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/10/what-was-the-nicest-thing-to-happen-to-you-in-2021-surely-something-good-happened

As usual, BTL comments are :cool: :sparkle:

Reply to Primperan
Thanks for that.
I don't really know Calvin and Hobbes that well.
Gotta love Hobbes saving Calvin from his nightmares - 'Another typical school day?'

'Squeak, squeak, squeak' :smile:
Is Hobbes always the hero ?

Reply to Amity
Calvin and Hobbes is my favorite comic. Calvin doesn't like school too much. The life of a child is hard. Do you remember?

Reply to Primperan

"Hey Twinkie, want to see if there's an afterlife?" :rofl:

Quoting Primperan

The life of a child is hard. Do you remember?

Life is hard. That's why we have cartoons. And such...
Art and creativity. For fun or serious reflection shared.

'Do you remember?' Great question.
What do we remember about our childhood; our influences and context ?

The stories we are told, the photographs we hold, the dreams we are sold ?
Fairy tales, myths and monsters. Moments in time. Our small lives framed.

The stories we tell ourselves - how true are they ?
How do we fare along the way ?

This cartoon thread was started fairly frivolously.
Now I wonder about the life and role of the cartoonist as a shaper.
Time to turn to Wiki...?

Wiki was never there for me as an inquisitive child.
Perhaps just as well...
I might never have explored the woods for the trees.

Reader's Digest

Funny & Humor - Cartoons
Looking for a little humor to be drawn in (literally) to your life? Well, you no longer have to have a copy of the funny pages to laugh at some hilarious cartoons–we’ve got a bunch of laugh out loud drawings right here.

https://www.rd.com/funny/cartoons/

Reply to James Riley Reply to Amity

It's psychosomatic. We need a lobotomy. :rofl:

Reply to James Riley Reply to Amity

Jawohl mein Führer!

It's really good.

Reply to Primperan

:100: I think I've got some of those books buried around here somewhere. I'll have to dig them out. With the loss of news papers (or their unwillingness to self-depreciate or get people thinking) we also lost a good thing. It would be interesting to see what Calvin would make of current events (obliquely, of course). Would his head be stuck in a cell phone, while Hobbs sat alone a shelf at Goodwill?

Reply to James Riley
Merry Christmas and happy new year!

Topical:
"I am here for my 5th shot because of the 3rd wave..."
"...or the other way around."

Reply to SophistiCat
Ah, 'Le Monde' :cool:

Now, would that be the Boostest of the Boosts but peut-être not the last...probablement.
Love that he is there but where's his goddamn mask :roll:

:mask:

Stay safe and take care :sparkle:

Meanwhile...

https://www.reluctantgourmet.com/cooking-cartoon-meanwhile/

Quoting Euronews - World Press Cartoon 2021

The World Press Cartoon has returned to Caldas da Rainha, one of UNESCO's Creative Cities. Cartoonists from the four corners of the world are tracing a new chapter of humorous drawings.

This 2021 edition is strongly marked by the COVID-19 pandemic, but also by defending the freedom of press and expression, a major tradition at the event.

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2021/07/21/italian-cartoonist-gio-is-the-big-winner-at-the-world-press-cartoon-2021

- with short explanations.
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More here but with [s]no[/s] minimal ( cursor rollover) explanations. Do they need any ? Not all are clear to me...

https://worldpresscartoon.com/winner-2021/

How are we supposed to just keep going? What a long grim year, again
First Dog on the Moon
Need some rest and some time with people you love or even better spend a quiet moment hiding alone in a tree

'Whatever shall become of us' :chin:
The good and the bad news... :cool:

'Imagine a plant that likes you...' :flower:
'Remember this too shall pass...sigh.' :sparkle:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/17/how-are-we-supposed-to-just-keep-going-what-a-long-grim-year-again

Edit : Don't quite get the 'Dance with a baby to Music For a Found Harmonium by the Penguin Cafe Orchestra' - is that an Aussie thing, like the millipede ?

Awful People

https://xkcd.com/2548/

Street Art

'There is Always Hope' ?

https://www.banksyshop.net/banksy-girl-with-balloon-meaning/

First Dog on the Moon
Christmas
It’s time for Christmas drinks in the offices of the Minister for Other People Taking Personal Responsibility

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/22/its-time-for-christmas-drinks-in-the-offices-of-the-minister-for-other-people-taking-personal-responsibility

Calvin & Hobbes

Spirit of New Year and Real Word.

@Amity

I remember discussing with you political/social cartoons the last summer. Here I going to share another one with you because whenever I see one of these I quickly have good memories about the last summer when we shared the opinions on the cartoons!



You can see a skeleton literally voting :rofl:. The cartoon is a satire about how fake and corrupt were the Spain's polls back in the day. It is known that political senators or deputies put the vote of citizens that were already dead...

Quoting javi2541997

I remember discussing with you political/social cartoons the last summer.

I remember that and more.
Good to see you back... just as I have left...for a bit.

Thanks for the cartoon.
However, I find it difficult to raise a smile.
Right now, I want to smite down...those liars.

A powerful piece from the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/12/lies-lies-and-more-lies-a-government-built-on-lies-is-incapable-of-anything-else

Freedom
https://xkcd.com/706/

Freedom of speech

Inappropriate and offensive. Who would be amused by this? The sick and the low.

Edited for clarity:
Quoting Freedom of Speech or Insulting? - Euronews

The French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo has stirred up anger again over the front page of its latest edition which focuses on the earthquake in Turkey

The French weekly magazine Charlie Hebdo's cartoon about the earthquake in Turkiye is continuing to receive negative criticism from all over the world.

Not only in Turkish society but several European nations and other countries have been reacting to its caricature.
[...]
The image published by Charlie Hebdo on the same day of the earthquake with the title "Cartoon of the Day" reads "Earthquake in Turkiye. Even, no need to send tanks."

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Quoting The Conversation

Fine line

The critical voice of the political cartoonist can provide a vital safety valve for a society. They can give expression to frustrations, grievances and opposition. But cartoonists need to remain sensitive to local political and social histories.

It’s a fine line between balancing the need to protect free speech and these concerns. Political cartoonists need to continue to speak truth to power, but in so doing must ensure they do not cause division and hostility which may threaten the most fundamental of rights – the right to life.

Reply to Amity This thread makes me feel nostalgic! I remember sharing cartoons with you when I was a very recent member of TPF. I missed its existence when it is pretty good, indeed.

I agree with you. The new cartoon from Charlie Hebdo is very offensive. The people of Turkey are not guilty nor responsible for such a natural disaster. I understand that political cartoonists need freedom of speech to do their work, and to show off criticising politicians.

But in this case, it is different: I see that two normal people appear with a satirical phrase. I think it is hurtful without any cause or reason. If Erdo?an were the one who was drawn in the cartoon, the Turkish people would have interpreted it differently. More than attack to their victims, a clever criticism on Erdo?an's management regarding the effects of the earthquake.

Quoting javi2541997

This thread makes me feel nostalgic! I remember sharing cartoons with you when I was a very recent member of TPF. I missed its existence when it is pretty good, indeed.

Yeah, me too. I'd forgotten about it. Then @Vera Mont started a discussion: 'What is freedom?'.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/14666/what-is-freedom

Introducing cartoons (and songs) would make it more 'Lounge' material, but I think they are a great way to explore and enjoy different aspects/issues. Lighter but still serious. Creative.

Quoting javi2541997

I agree with you. The new cartoon from Charlie Hebdo is very offensive. The people of Turkey are not guilty nor responsible for such a natural disaster. I understand that political cartoonists need freedom of speech to do their work, and to show off criticising politicians.

But in this case, it is different: I see that two normal people appear with a satirical phrase. I think it is hurtful without any cause or reason. If Erdo?an were the one who was drawn in the cartoon, the Turkish people would have interpreted it differently. More than attack to their victims, a clever criticism on Erdo?an's management regarding the effects of the earthquake.

The cartoon is from February, and it is criticizing the Turkish treatment of the Kurds. There were anti-Kurd pogroms in the seventies and eighties in the region where the earthquake was centred.

EDIT: the fake outrage no doubt came from Turkish nationalists and Erdogan-loyalists.

Quoting Jamal

The cartoon is from February, and it is criticizing the Turkish treatment of the Kurds. There were anti-Kurd pogroms in the seventies and eighties in the region where the earthquake was centred.

Thanks for that information. I've edited the original post to clarify the timing.

Quoting Jamal

EDIT: the fake outrage no doubt came from Turkish nationalists and Erdogan-loyalists.

From the article, the cartoon received negative criticism from around the world.

Reply to Jamal Thanks for clarifying the context, mate :up:

Quoting Amity

From the article, the cartoon received negative criticism from around the world.

You are right. It has received criticism from other Muslim countries which are friends with Turkey, for example: Argelia. This country is not a big "friend" of France's either.

Reply to Amity Reply to javi2541997

:up:

I will say that the cartoon is not funny, and not really meant to be. Certainly it’s in bad taste, but apparently that’s the tradition of French satire.

I’m in two minds about satire. I’m thinking that if it’s to have any effect at all it has to be shocking. Otherwise I’m as sceptical about it as Peter Cook was (himself a satirist). He referred to “those wonderful Berlin cabarets which did so much to stop the rise of Hitler and prevent the outbreak of the Second World War.”

Better late than never...

Coronation Caricatures
https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/05/03/coronation-caricatures-has-charlie-hebdo-gone-too-far

Starting with Charlie Hebdo!
Then:

• Coronation: Putting out the Bibles - Harry and the Sacred Texts by Peter Brookes in The Times.
• Austrian caricaturist Marian Kamesky, titled ‘The King and The Queen Camilla’.
• Italian cartoonist Francesco Frank Federighi - King Charles III excitedly announcing the arrival of his imminent coronation with cymbals.
• Cuban artist Wimar Verdecia Fuentes - King Charles edging towards the crown.
• Dutch artist Tjeerd Royaards, the editorial cartoonist and cartoon editor for Cartoon Movement: Heavy lies the crown...The shadow of the late Queen Elizabeth II looms over this new era.

Another 4 before:
"FINALLY!" - Cuban artist Fabian Sotolongo - Charles waking up and celebrating, thrilled at the prospect of finally acceding to the throne. Who lies next to him in his bed...?

@Amity

Browsing around the Internet, I found this cartoon about Francisco Franco. It is a 1962 satire by Herblock.
I see some interesting details: the cartoon shows an aged Francisco Franco and Eagle (the motto of Francoist Spain) sitting in a decrepit castle, as he gazes at portraits of Hitler and Mussolini, who are gone. Yet, on his right, there is Trujillo. The dictator of the Dominican Republic.

It surprises me why the cartoonist didn't draw Salazar when he was alive in the same period as Franco...

If we can gaze at the back of Trujillo's portrait, it seems there is another one by another dictator. But it is blurred, and I can distinguish who it can be. :chin:

By the way, this is a 1962 cartoon and Franco lived another 13 years...

Quoting javi2541997

It surprises me why the cartoonist didn't draw Salazar when he was alive in the same period as Franco...

Salazar ruled Portugal until 1968, so maybe bringing him up detracts from the point he is trying to make, rather makes it a null point lol

Reply to Deleted user True! Good point. Yet the cartoonist drew Trujillo, and the latter was alive at the same period as Franco's.

A cartoon by Adam Douglas Thompson posted by 'The New Yorker'

Reply to javi2541997
Hey, javi - good to see you keeping the thread alive. Hope you are keeping well and as positive as possible. How can you not with that fantastic football result in Euro24 final!? Spain 2 - England 1.
But then, there are the 'losers'. I hate it that some footballers remove their runner-up medals almost as soon as they are hung over their necks. Not seen as being proud of that achievement?!

Re your cartoon:
Happy to say that the shift to the right has been stemmed for a little while. At least in the UK with Labour toppling the Tories. Yesterday, PM Keir Starmer hosted a European Political Community summit at Blenheim Palace - hopefully building stronger relationships...we will see...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jul/18/european-political-community-summit-uk-politics-blenheim-palace-starmer-macron-scholz-meloni

But, of course, the hard right are still around. Boris, Truss and Farage hurrying off to support Trump.
The Tories still to find a new leader. From the remains, probably even more extreme than before.

Anyway, my spirits are raised, even as I am appalled at what is happening in USA politics.
Thought I'd share this cartoon from First Dog on the Moon.
'Does that cloud have a silver lining or is it something else?' Pessimism v Optimism. I like that it ends with the question: Is something getting better in your life or the world? An invitation to comment. I think it's difficult but necessary to turn focus on that. Too easy to dwell in misery.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/jul/19/do-you-think-things-are-generally-getting-better-or-worse-are-you-a-pollyanna-or-a-misery-kevin

Reply to Amity Hello Amity! Happy to read posts from you again. :smile:

Quoting Amity

How can you not with that fantastic football result in Euro24 final!? Spain 2 - England 1.

It was a nice night, but I quickly went back to my normal life. Although it is always great to watch your country lift cups, it is, at the same time, quite sad that we only know how to stay together in football tournaments. In the rest of life aspects everything is messy here...

Quoting Amity

At least in the UK with Labour toppling the Tories. Yesterday, PM Keir Starmer hosted a European Political Community summit at Blenheim Palace - hopefully building stronger relationships...we will see...

Yes! I read similar news here, and we discussed it in the 'Brexit' thread. I am happy to know Sir Starmer wants to get closer to European countries and build stronger relationships. Yet, I wonder to what extent he has in mind another referendum to ask the British people to reunite the EU or not... Let's see what he does in his mandate. I wish him the best! The Tories deserved such a brutal loss. They cheated on people and their management of the country was outrageous.

Quoting Amity

But, of course, the hard right are still around. Boris, Truss and Farage hurrying off to support Trump.

U.S.A is becoming an extremely hazardous country. I hope we do not reach that point. Yes, there are still divisions across Europe, but not to the point of violence (with the exception of Slovakia's Prime Minister). Poor mate...

Reply to javi2541997
Good to hear from you again and thanks for the welcome back :smile:
I don't expect to be posting often. Definitely not getting embroiled in the political threads...but, of course, I have my thoughts...they slip out every now and then!

Reply to Amity
Are you an aficionada of science fiction movies and tv shows? I'm about to try starting a fun thread. (I usually fall flat, but wth?

Quoting Vera Mont

I'm about to try starting a fun thread. (I usually fall flat, but wth?

Go for it! I'm already intrigued :smile:

Reply to Amity Done!

Great :up:

Tank Man, our unknown protester hero.

1989* Tiananmen Square protests.

* 35th anniversary.