I find this interesting. First, it's not my "movement" so I won't tell others how to run their desires. And I kind of like the idea of putting homo sa...
Capitalism relies upon the notion of personal property. Let's all tell ourselves a big fat lie and assume, for the sake of argument, that personal pro...
People, especially logicians (but many religious folks too), are very uncomfortable with a violation of the fundamental principles of logic, as if we ...
I agree. Every time I was inclined to say "everything" I found myself put off by the suffix "thing." It implies too much concrete. I looked for a word...
I'm not expert on "debate" and I'm not even sure I really know what it means. I once saw a few seconds of a moderated high school debate on TV, using ...
:up: I don't speak Latin but that does bring back memories of school. I thought it was malum but again, I don't speak Latin and it's been a million ye...
I don't know if I agree with it or not. I did not know what a "hinge proposition" was so I looked it up and it seemed to describe simple law and not N...
I'm new here, and apparently people don't talk to or respond to anyone not tagged. So I apologize. I just assumed you had been reading this thread. Ma...
That would be the expected (demanded?) response to a value-free law. I, however, as a champion of Natural Law, have done the courtesy of justifying my...
It's a non-issue for law, if law is value-free. But I'm not sure where you get the idea that a value does not need to be rationally established, defen...
Okay, son. You win. "And if it wadn't for this glass eye of mine why I'd shed a happy tear To think of all that you gonna get by bein' a winner." Bobb...
I'm no expert on hinge propositions, but when I looked it up, they were said to be not rationally established, defended or challenged. That would be v...
I guess you answered your own question, then, when you asked: "shouldn't getting your life in order come before more philosophizing/reading/writing/le...
I had to separate this out from the "objective world" stuff because I don't think it applies, as described before. I just wanted to comment on the abi...
I think so. And I focus here on #2. I think that in order to know what it is like to be a bat you would not turn to the objective world. Rather, you w...
To the extent a hinge proposition is presupposition that cannot itself be rationally established, defended, or challenged, that would be the value-fre...
I don't think anyone is arguing that the law is not a fraud, not a chimera, not a mere pretender to justice. It's just disconcerting to have the law a...
I first used it the context of a distinction between living in grace with what I eat, as opposed to the Christian habit of saying grace before they ea...
:100: Not that you read my posts, but if you ever see me use the word "grace", which I absolutely love, I hope you do not attach to my meaning all tha...
If that were true (and maybe it is) then it hardly seems a punishment. The fact that I might not believe anyone does not render me immobile. I can sti...
And that is where the law ceases to be the law. It becomes a mere court. If there is a conflict between Natural Law (one’s feelings about good, bad, r...
That is a good clarification, knowing the positivists think the law is value-free. One can read his words "legal positivism in its rejection of natura...
Snap! :100: In regard to the pandemic, and in a context of God and humanity, a lady in this ranching country recently asked "Whoever came up with the ...
I went back to your OP to see if I could find where the problem is. I think the “positivists” have set up a straw man with their “Value-free” and “ass...
I honestly don't know. But I do know people who used to play the game and they told me it was par for the course. On the other hand, as I said, politi...
So, when it suits your bias, they are gold. When they don't, they are suspect. Got it. I remember Scott Ritter et al, walking it back, and it was not ...
If I recall from my school days, the two-valued orientation (either/or) was a logical fallacy. Richard Rohr calls it "dualistic thinking". When someon...
That reminds me of the old saw about the next unborn being a potential Hitler or Einstein. You don't know if the cloistered monk might not be worse fo...
I'm sorry, but maybe I confused you with someone who said: "Then that's an utter waste of life, if you ask me. This individualist kind of thinking, ex...
Out doing. You know, helping humanity, or whatever. It seems your waxing on here is equivalent to sitting on a hill top. And even if your participatio...
I know you don't seek my counsel, but if that is your belief, you might consider getting out there in the field instead of talking a good game here on...
Again, as you define what you perceive to be the ills of Natural Law, you fail entirely to show how the law does not suffer from those same ills, and ...
The link does not disprove the story or prove that doubt was prudent. We were propping the Mujahidin against Soviet Russia in worse ways, and all the ...
I suppose that depends on the definition of the word "good." Let's say he kills everyone on the planet. There are are lot of entities that might be be...
That's interesting, because some folks I know in the community said, at the time, it was a non-issue; not because it didn't happen, but because it's b...
You've entirely failed to distinguish Natural Law from law. Calling X "this", does not distinguish it from Y. Are we to make a leap from your understa...
He need not have a contribution. Like the guy on the mountain top with the beard. He doesn't contribute much either. Hold on a minute, my last sentenc...
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