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One of The points of a philosophy forum is to discover how others think and make their arguments?yes of course....you can see that I didn't utter any ...

Couldn't you say from the beginning that you're materialist? Now I see why you're forced to believe that I'm having a false memory.you just need to be...

1) what if other people world-wide verified the same experience? isn't that enough for reducing the probability of it being a false memory? 2) Remembe...

I will ignore the fact that you've gradually started to utter words that don't belong to a philosphical forum or at least an open-minded debate. In or...

Let's talk about reason...the probability of misremembering a specific event is inversely proportional to the importance, remarkableness and hugeness ...

I have no idea, I'm new to the forum.

"hopelessly"?!!!....... "Serves mythology"?!!! Hmmmm..... honestly,those words seem to express your emotions more than your thoughts..... you have all...

I've heard all scientific explanations for deja vu but in fact I'm asking about another phenomenon.... it's how can the brain remember a memory second...

....I think it's not very safe and sound to say that I can misremember such a huge, very unique, shocking and extraordinary event which I would never ...

Thanks for the clarification....now I understand your point of view, thanks

You've put a lot of effort to make an explanation for deja vu which isn't what I asked about its explanation in the first place,the phenomenon which I...

It's not always the right choice to defend the material side by making any thing that doesn't seem very related to a material interpretation eitther a...

I have NO comment...... The debate really has to stop after this quote...and don't ask me why....have fun! Please make us a favor by not replying.

Okay that's it.....if omnipotence is being able to do anything even if illogical therefore God can not be omnipotent if this what the word omnipotence...

Excuse me!... You seem to forget what your premise really was....your premise stated that God can't be necessary because if so He won't be able to des...

I'm sorry.... here's another argument: You say that God can't be necessary because if He is necessary he won't be able to take Himself out of existenc...

Again your first premise is false because if God can do anything even if logically impossible,therefore He can create a being that's immune to God the...

If you're right therefore the word God must be meaningless because if we know what entity does the word God stand for therefore God is logical....in f...

Your first premise is false and that's due to the fact that God by definition is absolute and contingency is an obvious lack of absoluteness unless yo...

Logic is the mirror of absolute certainty that can be used to show weather a statement is true,false or just possible.

You said you're not christian but you sound jus like an extremist who refuses to think that his version of omnipotence is illogical....and no...a big ...

I think our debate is on its way to become pointless so to end the whole thing.... Do you believe a necessary existent exists(not necessarily believe ...

So you're actually saying that if infinite regress is impossible so has to be a necessary existent or in other words it's safe to say that you view th...

I don't need to prove that an event necessarily has to have a begining otherwise it won't be an event at all so, either we'll have an infinite regress...

Does the book you linked revolve around arguing for instrumentalism?

What if I define omnipotence as the ability to do things expanded to its maximum?...and of course this maximum is logical...... therefore God is omnip...

And this always let me very confused and sad...... Like HOW ON EARTH they can't realize that they should abandon science if they believe such a thing....

Omnipotence is completely achieved if a being is able to do any logically possible thing and since doing a "logically" impossible thing is a "logicall...

Well.... I'll be honest with you....I can't imagine how anyone can refuse accepting that believing in a being that's above logic is "logically" refute...

Let me reform my previous reply to you...... A necessary existent is the existent which its very self is sufficient for explaining his existence or in...

I hope you can see that you have to prove first that God has to be omnipotent (your version of omnipotence)..and since you believe that omnipotence re...

Actually no...the necessary existent is a necessary existent even if it exists alone and I can't see why you're thinking otherwise. I can not not agre...

And in addition to the above ...your whole thing approaches and revolves around a single idea which is logic being somehow not so correct in all cases...

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Well...I disagree with you and I'm sure logic does too...because unless you believe that logic is imperfect or that it's not always correct you have t...

You're trying to explain an event while arguing against causality.you accept causality or not?make a decision

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A contingent existent is by definition the existent which its very self is not sufficient for existence. Now we can see that this truth will not chang...

We are suffering from a category error here... let's clarify that existing by necessity isn't always the same as being a necessary existent by nature,...

No,even if God necessarily has to create the universe,this can never change the core truth of the universe's entity...the universe will remain conting...

Can you read again what you just wrote, please?

Were you trying to say that laws of logic don't necessarily apply outside our minds?

This is very bad,man.... because contingency means that the very self of the thing is not sufficient for existence and that essentially requires an ex...

Yes

Do we agree that any existing thing has to be either contingent or necessary? If yes,do we agree that if God is contingent,then He has a cause?

Do you mind if I asked you about your religion?

Anyway,the purpose of this discussion was to talk about weather Avicenna's proof is valid or not. Discussing God's attributes and what to believe and ...

Hmmmm....no...a big No...the universe exists externally.. therefore the universe has to be either contingent or necessary not because I say so, It's b...

That's why I thought you will be surprised.... you're extremely unfamiliar with Islamic philosophy and islamic scholars' belief in God.....and I think...