Benkei

Second anti-natalism post here, stop it. It's not the place to parade your favourite horse.

A democracy that commits humanitarian and war crimes against part of their own citizens and a substantial part of people under their occupation. Being...

But nobody is saying "let the other guy hit you", we're saying stop human rights abuses, stop the occupation and illegal settlement. That has nothing ...

By definition anyone resisting a just cause is acting unjustly. It's kind of like the following decision tree: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussi...

Maybe, just maybe, if the West stops interfering in all these countries enough stability will arise for them to actually make social progress? Just an...

surrendering to an oppressive regime is the same as an agressor surrendering in defeat? Or what point exactly are you trying to make? That Palestinian...

I think it's more about identification. Most posters here are from advanced western nations so we bomb. It's the Other that has to resort to terrorism...

He's just framing the question in such a way he can feel good about himself for continuing to support Israel by pretending it's a war and not an occup...

What part of some violence is acceptable and some isn't is so incredibly hard for you to grasp that you start making shit up about my position?

I think the deliberate targeting of Israeli civilians is wrong tout court, irrespective of what Israel's possible reaction could be. In fact, we alrea...

No. I don't need to repeat the attack by Hamas was unjustified ad nauseum for every internet rando that decides to jump in on the conversation midway....

Political, economic and military support.

But a two-state solution is denied through backing Israel, which considers a Palestinian state a no-go. Let alone the insane amount of colonizer settl...

It's a really simple concept; people find things acceptable when they are done for just reasons.

The two-state or single state solution with Palestinians, Jews and others living together both work for me, whether that state is called Israel seems ...

Musings: It's clear Hamas' attack was barbaric and should be condemned. However, what level of oppression and colonisation are the Palestinians to acc...

I disagree. I see a very clear justification for armed resistance.

Well, that's pretty strange. I've stated violence is permissible, gave an example of what sort and condemned the way Hamas goes about it and in the po...

What's evil about a Palestinian state and a right of return, exactly? Or do you have it in your head again this excludes an Israeli State? And yes, I ...

At what point have I given the impression I don't think Israel can exist? Israeli's cause vis-a-vis its treatment of Palestinians; the oppression, the...

It would be absurd except for the context of decades of oppression and crimes by Israel that preceded it, that you conveniently leave out so you can p...

Your classification of what Hamas is, is neither here nor there. Their charter is not crazy. It's an easily understood document. Anyone who reads "Ham...

If you combine this with the "no other State west of the river" when you know there's millions of Palestinians living there, you are deliberately crea...

It's only vague if you have reading comprehension problems.

Also to help you with your dyslexia, I said quite clearly before:

Again. You're not replying to the facts. You just don't like it that it's incontrovertibly true that Hamas has indicated a willingness to discuss a tw...

Sounds like a lovely idea. So total war against Israel is justified then? Because while Hamas might have committed a war crime, certainly we are in ag...

That video was ok. I liked the "what's their excuse?" for the West Bank killings when Hamas isn't there best I guess.

I think that was a mistranslation. It's kill all the animals; every man, woman and child.

I understand you get off by dehumanising people simply because they do things you abhor so you can feel all safe and cuddly by blowing up civilians be...

I fixed it for you. If using violence makes statements irrelevant then what now?

How about you go fuck yourself you with your irrelevant ad hominems?

Ah I see you interpreted my "enitrely" as such. Taking Likud together with the Basic Law, there cannot be room for a right of return and Jews are (and...

Since 2017. We've been over that a year or two ago in this very thread. As to Likud: Their original party program: a. The right of the Jewish people t...

It means exactly the same as Likud states should be entirely Jewish with the largest difference that even Hamas is in favour of a two state solution.

No it isn't. Can't you read? So weird the PLO was always insisting on a two-state solution because that must have been a very deep disingenuous step i...

https://cdn.britannica.com/56/74456-050-DCA551D4/Interim-Agreement-West-Bank-Gaza-Strip-B-1993.jpg Let this sink in. Count the number of Israeli settl...

@"Tzeentch" Did you read that they voted in Dutch parliament that they consider the slogan "From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" to be ...

I didn't ask you to condemn this response. Go back. Read my post and try again and then I'll entertain your questions. The answers of which should be ...

You quote but you don't give a source. In any case, "they started it" is just a tu quoque fallacy. Do you have anything interesting to add or just her...

Not commit war crimes. Not every problem has an acceptable solution. You think that's an excuse to pursue non-acceptable solutions. I don't.

Yes, carpet bombing was a war crime.

My response was to the situation not the attack, which you conveniently ignore so you can argue against a strawman. Context matters. And yes, I consid...

I don't think the calculus would be that cynical that they actually think it's in their interest but anything that's an obstacle to a two-state soluti...

5,800 dead Palestinian civilians in the meantime. All in "self defence".

Even things without moral agency don't warrant that they are destroyed. And with close to 50% being minors, moral agency is even a question. I chose a...

A silly dichotomy but unfortunately reflects a similar lack of imagination of both the media and our political leaders.

That would be my response to the entire situation. You cannot demand security and refuse to give the other party the same. Reciprocity and all that. I...

Let's not pretend this is a chicken or egg situation. Terrorism has always been a reply to Israeli oppression. . But they don't because Hamas until re...

Maybe read some just war theory? Proportionality is already alluded to in the Melian dialogue and explicitly treated by St Augustine and with Aquinas ...