If it's helpful, Wittgenstein actually commented on Gödel's work (and Gödel commented very briefly on Wittgenstein's commentary). We've discussed it h...
This would of course rely on a definition of causation as necessarily being temporal. Most of the arguments for God as "First Cause" deny such a defla...
This gets at a common concern among fantasy writers and fans. Does a writer go with a "hard magic system" or a "soft magic system." A "hard magic syst...
That wasn't actually my post, but I'll still respond: The Oxford Very Short Introductions are sort of hit or miss, but the one on "Objectivity" is qui...
My apologies, as you can see, I removed a large portion of my post because I had written it on my phone in a very broken up manner and I realized the ...
Sure, but it cannot be "use all the way down," unless the human use of language spawns for the aether uncaused. For example, presumably, if ants didn'...
I wasn't thinking of Wittgenstein in particular there. A lot of people have worked with the idea of meaning as use, some in quite reductionist terms, ...
I think it's worth separating out the goal of avoiding bias (attaining objectivity) and the idea that "real/proper" science involves excluding value a...
A.C. Grayling challenges the strict reduction of meaning to use with examples like "e.g." and "QED," where people might very well use them properly wi...
:up: Yes, there is a great deal of uncertainty here, in part because man, as a social and cultural animal, always has his good filtered through social...
We have discussed Ligotti here a few times before. A really interesting book on the emergence of a sense of a "lack of meaning," which is in many ways...
lol, that reminds me, after I listened to the audiobook of Saint Gregory of Nyssa 's "The Life of Moses," (excellent quality BTW) the YouTube algorith...
I was thinking of Job's interlocutors, the Disciples' questions at the opening of John 9 as to whether a man was born blind because he sinned or his p...
Goodness is a general principle, so we shouldn't expect that it can be reduced to health. But nor is health, or facts about what promotes or hinders h...
Is medicine not a science? What about botany, zoology, or biology more generally, which have notions of health, harm, goal-directedness, function, etc...
You can swap in best interest there. I don't think it's the case that people have infallible judgement as to what is in their own best interest. I thi...
No, I would say there is a fact of the matter as to whether some particular individual would benefit from quitting smoking. Sort of like how you might...
The Moral Landscape? I'm a big fan even though I disagree with its core thesis and methodology. I still think it's a helpful framing of ethics for peo...
Indeed, and the idea that the wretched, slaves, etc. were in their place precisely because they were wicked was obviously a popular opinion amongst th...
I don't see how it begs any question unless we're assuming that people are infallible about what is best for them. No I'm not. I'm saying there is a f...
Well, first I'd just point out that most people who embrace outlandish conspiracy theories don't reject reason. They see themselves as paragons of epi...
The opening of TLP makes several clear. The ones that jumped to mind as problematic are: "Noesis (a non-discursive, non-linguistic, reflexive grasp of...
Nothing of the sort. I am just pointing out that Wittgenstein starts from assumptions about the nature of truth and knowledge that were common to his ...
I suppose the above also gets into notions of "virtue epistemology," not just virtue ethics. Perhaps a broader question would be: "is philosophy—the l...
I think it's probably unhelpful to look at archetypes as being something like sets or some sort of ranking on a spectrum. It might it make more sense ...
I think that's exactly right. A more deflated view of reason tends to "democratize" things, devaluing the role of praxis and progress. Yet in so much ...
Well, if they are an emotivist, presumably they agree because baby stomping has negative emotional valance for them as well, and for no reason other t...
I never claimed that were the same. Emotivism, at least in most of the forms I am familiar with, claims that all value statements reduce to emotion, n...
I think it's important to note that people who reject emotivism do not deny that emotion plays a role in motivating people's value statements, nor is ...
That isn't agreement. I said that "'stomping babies is bad for them ' is an obvious empirical fact of medical science." To say "I agree that stomping ...
But what language an archeological text is written in is an empirical question, no? It's only obvious if you know the language in question, otherwise ...
I don't understand the relevance of the example. That certain text is written in a given language isn't the sort of thing that would be a hinge propos...
Or maybe people have emotions vis-á-vis questions of value because the events in question are good or bad? That is, "I feel repelled by x because x is...
I figured people in this thread might find a perspective outside the Western tradition interesting: https://www.patristicfaith.com/senior-contributors...
The term "noesis" has been revived by modern thinkers in a number of ways that are quite different from the term's historical meaning, so perhaps that...
I see your edits and they seem to me like just throwing stuff at a wall to see what sticks. How exactly does the fact that 20th century Jews appreciat...
Gotcha, against the consensus of historians and the claims of the texts themselves, the authors of the Scriptures were slaves because Nietzsche said t...
Nietzsche was not a religious scholar and never seriously studied the traditions he was commenting on. A lot of his "history" is just made up speculat...
The actual existence of God is sort of besides to point IMO. The point would be that people have often held conceptions of truth that would invalidate...
Where is the demonstration? Asserting something with no support is not a demonstration. The opening of TLP is just dogmatic assertions. There is certa...
I think you're probably correct about Wittgenstein, but I have seen later sympathetic commentators try to link together all of humanity (or all embodi...
Maybe try reading (and quoting) the entire sentence? For most Patristic thought, all men begin fundamentally deluded about truth, and we remain so for...
So the winning move reduces to: "it's not so much what we do as what we do that is of import?" :rofl: Do you think it is possible today to give an acc...
But are Wittgenstein's conclusions "tautologically" true for both the Christian and the atheist as well, or just for fellow Wittgensteinians? From the...
This is an interesting case, because God was often considered as the ontological ground of truth. Truth is most properly in the Divine Intellect, seco...
Why? Does Wittgenstein demonstrate things like: "Noesis is impossible." "Truth is strictly a property of propositions," "Judgement is only proper to d...
Yes, my point was not that hinge propositions involve noesis (indeed, the concept presumes there is no such thing as noesis). Rather, it was that, for...
Yes, perhaps I wasn't very clear there. I meant an "intellect" in the classical sense (nous), as in "being capable of noetic intuition, a simple, non-...
Are propositions like: "There is no such thing as noesis," "Truth is strictly a property of propositions," "Judgement is only proper to discursive rea...
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