Here's a book chapter arguing the same thing in a more general philosophical way. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Ulanowicz/publication/29...
This is an example of our different interests. You presume parameter spaces can be glued together. I'm concerned with the emergent nature of parameter...
I’ve been talking about the thermodynamic constraints that shape dissipative systems like ecologies. You have failed to show why I should care about a...
This is the bit that puzzles me. It seems that all your arguments want to circle back to this species diversity index. But that is an utter triviality...
And yet something still ties all this variety back to some general intuition. The usual response is "disorder". As I have said, at the metaphysical le...
What else do you expect if you take the attitude that we are free to construct metrics which are valid in terms of our own particular interests? I agr...
You seem terribly concerned by things that don't seem a big issue from the thermodynamic point of view. A lot of your focus seems to be on how to we s...
But the OP was about extracting a political analogy from a lifecycle understanding of ecosystems. I simply responded by saying Salthe's infodynamic pe...
Its not metaphorical if infodynamics/semiosis is generalisable to the material dissipative structures in general. Again, you might have to actually re...
Does that remain the case now that information theory has been tied to the actual world via holographic theory? Boltzmann's k turned out to be physica...
I'm baffled that you say Shannon entropy came before Boltzmann's entropy. But anyway, again my interest is to generalise across the different contextu...
What's wrong with a reciprocal relation? If Shannon entropy is the degree of surprise to be found in some system, then the Boltzmann entropy is the de...
In mechanics, degrees of freedom are a count of the number of independent parameters needed to define the configuration of a system. So your understan...
Yeah. But just have a go. Let's see what you could come up with. It truly might help to make sense of your attacks on mine. If instead you really want...
So already we agree that the notion is ill-defined? It is a fast and loose term in fact. Just like entropy. Or information. Maybe this is why I am rig...
Hmm. Just not convincingly butch coming from you. And more importantly it has no sting. You've got to be able to find a real weakness to pick at here....
Sousing? You really do have a tin ear when it comes to your ad homs. It absolutely spoils the effect when you come across as the hyperventilating clas...
I'll find time to respond to your post later. But it is a shame that you bypass the content of my posts to jump straight back to the world from your p...
I'd say from experience it goes both ways. These days I live in a small city surrounded by awesome mountains. So taking a trip back to one of the worl...
First up, I'm not bothered if my arguments are merely qualitative in your eyes. I am only "merely" doing metaphysics in the first place. So a lot of t...
Your questions seem off the point so I’m struggling to know what you actually want. If you have a professional interest, then there is a big literatur...
What do you mean? Either we do blow ourselves up, or we do find a long-run ecological balance. Well, I was just trying to cheer you up. I realise ther...
Hah. There certainly is an official position on this. But it is more about what has to be agreed to make the maths come out right than one based on fo...
Canopy succession is an example. Once a mighty oak has grown to fill a gap, it shades out the competition. So possibilities get removed. The mighty oa...
Senescent is probably a bad word choice by Salthe as he means to stress that a climax ecology has become too well adapted to some particular set of en...
Give snark and you get snark. Fair enough? Even in philosophy of maths, these are routine debates. And physics doesn't base itself on the "correctness...
You do get your knickers in a twist with great rapidity. As you know, that was Michael's terminology. I went along with it for the sake of discussion....
Nonsense? I think it really gets us to the heart of some really telling confusion. This is a philosophy discussion group. When things seem unarguably ...
If the odds of earth being the case on any one roll are 1 in infinity, then the odds of earth being the case every time in an infinite series of rolls...
You are just ignoring the fact that your scenario demands an infinite creation of multiverses. That is different from figuring the odds of repeated co...
If you are interested in the best account of this, try Stan Salthe’s story on the immature-mature-senescent arc of living systems. And it would accoun...
Jeez, you were serious? The odds of landing on the face marked Earth might be 1/?. The odds of landing on the face marked Earth an infinite number of ...
That would be helluva loaded dice. Get you banned from the cosmic casino for sure. It just wouldn’t fit the description of being random. And if every ...
Each of your regions would contain about 10^120 degrees of freedom. That would be the entropy content of a Hubble radius. So, naively, we would be tal...
Yeah. But you get to pick these infinite sequences out of an infinite hat. So you would pick that exact sequence an infinite number of times. But now ...
No. That was indeed necessary to explain how a Big Bang universe could be so remarkably thermally homogenous. And before that, just to resolve Olbers ...
Agreed. But any kind of topology could be screened off in that fashion with a sufficiently small hubble radius. Anyway, I see now that SophistiCat rat...
Apologies. I thought your mention of a torus was a typo. Didn't realise it had been introduced into the thread. If we lived in a 3-torus, we would be ...
You might be surprised. Peirce was Harvard's top of the class for his first degree in chemistry. He was up with the thermodynamics of his time. So yes...
The three axes are orthogonal. So not arbitrary but fixed by this exact relation to each other. They don't need to be fixed in terms of some larger "s...
I have no problem with decoherence as a formalism that describes the time evolution of the probability of sets of observables. As such, it "safely" si...
So you are fine to say the same object can have the two locations at the one time? Cool. We're making progress. The 100% similar obeys the principle o...
The point about semiosis is that Peirce worked out a fundamental notion of self-organising relations that could apply both to "the mind" and to "the w...
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