You are viewing the historical archive of The Philosophy Forum.
For current discussions, visit the live forum.
Go to live forum

Trestone

['Member']Joined: May 25, 2017 at 08:57Last active: October 03, 2022 at 08:336 discussions54 comments

Discussions (6)

Comments

In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello Mark Nyquist, yes, I am using here two (similar) theories: A new logic, called „layer logic“ that helps to avoid contradictions (by putting „tru...
September 05, 2021 at 09:13
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Layer logic and a model for body and mind: Hello, I have already indicated here on various occasions that my new layer logic can handle (apparent) con...
September 03, 2021 at 17:59
In: Valid additionals ideas to layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, In my model, the mind can either act targeted via its coupled body or act on the world in an untargeted manner that cannot be shielded via grav...
June 21, 2021 at 08:42
In: Valid additionals ideas to layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, Here again a summary of what happens from the point of view of the layer logic to mind-body has revealed: If you look at the universe and the B...
June 19, 2021 at 11:04
In: Valid additionals ideas to layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, if we also include gravity in the quantum layer model, then the following could happen: A particle travels on several possible paths from the s...
June 10, 2021 at 13:54
In: Valid additionals ideas to layer logic?  — view comment
Hello MAYAEL, layer logic and the ideas given here are theories. It might take some years (probably some 100 years) until some of them can be proven b...
June 10, 2021 at 13:54
In: Valid additionals ideas to layer logic?  — view comment
Hello MAYAEL, I want to show, that the new logic (layer logic) that I have developed can also be used to develop new models for other questions like p...
June 10, 2021 at 05:30
In: Valid additionals ideas to layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, admittedly, the model seems a bit awkward and complicated. But that both also applied to the models of Ptolomew and Copernicus. Whether the two...
June 08, 2021 at 08:19
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, there could be a closer connection between children and my math than can be seen at first glance: When Layer Logic spreads in...
May 11, 2021 at 07:07
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, Perhaps my mistake is, that I didn`t pretend enough this work on Layer Logic is fun and I didn´t wait for passers-by to offer me an apple to re...
May 10, 2021 at 08:21
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, from a German philosophy TV discussion today I learned, that ingeneering (= “ingenius engineering”) needs positive visions. So maybe I should c...
May 09, 2021 at 11:42
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, Is it good or bad to be ridiculous? Yours Trestone
May 08, 2021 at 15:54
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, about a month ago I wrote a fairytale about layer logic, based on this story with The Emperor`s Clothes. The role of the Empe...
May 08, 2021 at 05:38
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, maybe it helps if we try imagination: First we add a layer (0,1,2,3,...) to every statement with a truth value. For example “The liar statement...
May 07, 2021 at 12:16
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, you remind me of the border guard who demanded the TAO-TE-KING from Laotse. (Again a comparison to a famous person ...) Unfor...
May 07, 2021 at 06:19
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello EricH, originally the Layer Logic was only a theory and a new logic system like others. So I handled truth values with Layer Logic but I did not...
May 06, 2021 at 17:49
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello jgill, in my eyes you do not have to install Layer Logic on a computer: It`s already there. (Of course this is only a daring hypothesis of me.) ...
May 05, 2021 at 10:09
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, there are two problems: First, even having studied mathematics 30 years ago, I never liked the formalisms. And when studying ...
May 05, 2021 at 07:37
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, in the German link to layer logic there are some more definitions. Layer Logic in German at ask1.org For example this to the ...
May 04, 2021 at 17:34
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, thank you for still answering me! I do not think that we will in near time agree on the main points of Layer Logic, but to ha...
May 04, 2021 at 09:50
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Trestone: "You will know them by their fruits" (Matthew 7:15-20) Even if Matthew warns here of bad people, I am astonished what new fruits (not only i...
May 03, 2021 at 08:34
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, I am sorry that I can not answer most your questions to formal details. As I said, my studying math is over thirty years ago....
May 03, 2021 at 07:49
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, I have found my earlier handling of Cantor´s diagonalization and proof in layer logic: As All, the set of all sets, is a set in layer theory, i...
May 02, 2021 at 19:43
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, the proof about the power set can be similary be "unproofed" like the halting problem by adding layers and layer logic. There is even a more si...
May 02, 2021 at 17:30
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, here I will show how I handle the proof of the halting problem: Here a classical proof of it (from https://wiki.c2.com/?HaltingProblemDiscussio...
May 02, 2021 at 17:22
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, perhaps the formulation „indirect proof“ was misleading. I better could say „proof by contradiction“. The point is, however w...
May 02, 2021 at 15:55
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello keystone, the statement "x is an element of R if it is not an element of R in all layers"? is not allowed as a layer theory statement, as there ...
May 02, 2021 at 15:40
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, Lenin is quoted with the following syaing: “If these Germans want to storm a train station, they first buy a platform ticket!...
May 02, 2021 at 10:48
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello maytham naei, I think the logic problems with „I always lie“ are similar to „This statement is not true“. With classic logic they are true and f...
May 01, 2021 at 21:20
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TonesinDeepFreeze, as I left university some 30 years ago and have developed layer logic only as a hobby, I have no systematic theory, I mostly ...
May 01, 2021 at 09:56
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello, here some points about layer set theory and the Russell set, so you can check for yourself what is being swept „under the rug“: S1: Definition ...
April 30, 2021 at 16:05
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello keystone, my motivation for developing Layer Logic was to look after the things „under the rug“. Layer set theory is rather nice: It has only on...
April 29, 2021 at 19:27
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello jgill, Thank you for your comment. To „Schrödinger`s cat“: I have tried to apply layer logic on Quantum theory (for double slit and entanglement...
April 29, 2021 at 09:04
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello keystone, in Layer Logic I have to “disallow” only some meta statements. If I would disallow the original liar's statement (and renounce layer l...
April 29, 2021 at 08:54
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello keystone, yes, I use my layers for all statements and their truth values. For the layers I do not really need „numbers“, I only need a set that ...
April 28, 2021 at 14:48
In: Liars don't always lie – using layer logic?  — view comment
Hello keystone, here the definitions (AL and BL) for statements A and B in layer logic: For all k=0, 1,2,3, …: Statement AL is true in layer k+1 if st...
April 28, 2021 at 08:15
In: Layer Logic – a way out of „Hilbert`s Paradise“?  — view comment
Hello, here the link to layer logic in researchgate: layer logic in researchgate And here a thread to layer logic on The Philosophy Forum: layer logic...
April 25, 2021 at 08:24
In: Layer Logic – a way out of „Hilbert`s Paradise“?  — view comment
Hello TonesInDeepFreeze, thank you for the information. By the way: Compared to layer logic intuitionistic logic is almost classical ... Yours Treston...
April 24, 2021 at 20:48
In: Final reasoning (Münchhausen trilemma): A new solution with layer logic?  — view comment
Hello TheMadFool, thank you for the argumentation around the Münchhausen trilemma. „There are no good justifications“ is a result that is not satisfyi...
April 23, 2021 at 14:14
In: Have we really proved the existence of irrational numbers?  — view comment
Hello GrandMinnow, sorry, the citation at the beginning of my writing was an error and can be ignored. Yours Trestone
March 11, 2021 at 17:17
In: Have we really proved the existence of irrational numbers?  — view comment
Hello, here the sight with layer logic instead of classical logic: In layer logic you have to give a layer to the statement that should be possibly tr...
March 11, 2021 at 09:57
In: Have we really proved the existence of irrational numbers?  — view comment
Hello Ryan O'Connor, I do agree, that we have not proved the existence of irrational numbers. My argument is not only the problem of indirect proofs, ...
March 10, 2021 at 09:03
In: Consciousness and Mind: New Perspectives Using Layer Logic?  — view comment
Hello unenlightened, the book of Doris Lessing looks interesting, it reminds me partly on The_Three-Body_Problem of Liu Cixin. Yours Trestone
July 31, 2020 at 16:24
In: Consciousness and Mind: New Perspectives Using Layer Logic?  — view comment
Hello Eremit, I have only thought of one layer for the body and one for the mind. The layer of the body is finite and increasing with every interactio...
July 31, 2020 at 16:10
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello, two years are gone, but I am still exploring layer logic, mostly in German. Here an older link with many details for layer logic at a thread by...
October 11, 2019 at 15:50
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello szardosszemagad, you write that you are "too old to learn new tricks". My experiance is, that most younger ones also seem not to like to learn n...
September 07, 2017 at 16:42
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello Terrapin Station, I now can present a kind of "time cube proposal", that was inspired by layer logic: Extension of time and evolution 15 billion...
September 07, 2017 at 07:41
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello Pippen, to me not only the liar sentence is different in layer logic but the whole world: Like with complex numbers there are more and new possi...
June 23, 2017 at 14:58
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello Terrapin Station, to me layer logic is similar to complex numbers: If you keep thinking classic, you can say: "x*x=-1" has no real solution. And...
June 20, 2017 at 20:14
In: Layer Logic - an interesting alternative?  — view comment
Hello Pippen, In layer logic the "status" or "truth value" of the Liar sentence is an infinite truth vector v=(u,t,f,t,f,t,f,...) and every propositio...
June 19, 2017 at 19:59
⇧