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Speaking as a US Bible Belt preacher's kid*... I appreciate you noticing that. * 60 yo

I especially like the triangles that were a misapprehension of the bokeh of a nightvision camera.

Well of course. Any exploration of another star system would be done by ultra advanced AI. If we develop an ultra advanced AI, it will plug itself int...

Well, I'd agree that in part it is a matter of personal preferences, but that's kind of the tip of the iceberg, of subconscious factors impacting our ...

I'm not sure how one might quantify the degree to which experiences are profoundly unique and unmatched. We all have unique brains, so from a physical...

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I was taking "fuck" more literally than you seem to have meant it.

Good observation, but I'm not sure bonobos wouldn't put up a serious challenge there.

While I've considered it worthwhile to respond to your trolling up till now, because people who are serious thinkers seem likely to be reading along. ...

Ok. I'm quite confident that minds emerge from brains, but that is a different matter than knowing all of the details of how minds emerge from brains ...

I didn't say that I know. The reason I consider it highly implausible is that we don't know enough about how consciousness emerges in a brain to have ...

Well it's a big universe, so I can't claim to know. I don't think minds have emerged from machines other than brains here on earth.

It's too early in the history of neuroscience to be able to explain how minds emerge from the most complex physical systems we know of. Because the br...

I don't know whether you understand minds as functions of brains. However, in case your question wasn't rhetorical, Neurophysiology of Sleep and Wakef...

Ah, you were right. I was confusing thing apokrisis said, as having been things you said. I guess my brain has been filing things under "starts with a...

By watching a video of how I reacted while being cut open with a scalpel and comparing that to how I'm likely to react to being cut open while conscio...

I'm assuming you have some working definition "consciousness" (however vague that might be) which effects how you use the word. I'd think something li...

You seem to have your own idiosyncratic definition of "consciousness" that doesn't seem to have much overlap with what is commonly meant by the term. ...

It appear to me that becoming pulp fiction authors, upon leaving the military, is what they are doing.

But even simple computers now (with the right peripherals) could monitor the environment for loud noises, and in the event of detecting such a noise, ...

Who is such a hard nosed empiricist that he can't learn from someone else? People tell me I snore. Despite having no conscious recollection of snoring...

Do you think computer's are conscious?

Hey Art, Why think consciousness is required to be awakened from deep sleep by a noise, rather than a subconscious process monitoring input from the e...

LOL I pay my electric bill via an automated phone system, and I always find myself saying, "Thank you.", at the end.

It seems like I'm always responding to you in particular, Patterner. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm picking on you. I guess you just say things in wa...

I'm not sure if this gets directly at what you are asking for, but "religious particularism" is a relevant term with "ecumenicalism" having somewhat t...

I'm liking the first paragraph. It shows 'he gets it'. For a long time starling murmurrations have seemed to me the best succinct way of conveying my ...

'How much speculation is too much?', isn't the important question at all, from my perspective. Much more important, it seems to me, is how undisciplin...

"Consciousness is experiencing." seems a more realistic statement to me. Someone under anesthesia might be said to have the capacity to experience, bu...

It would be more accurate to say, "That's not always the case.", rather than, "That's not really the case." My own mother has told me that she thinks ...

That adds an interesting additional factor.

Thanks Paine and Fooloso4. I don't see what you are suggesting as so different from what I was speculating. (Although I do tend to use my own rather i...

Interesting. I didn't see smugness there, so much as someone having fun. But I'm autistic, so my interpretation might well be off. Anyway, I get the i...

I'm guessing the Einstein for a day version of 180 Proof might be more like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Einstein_tongue.jpg

Careful what you wish for. Inasmuch as human thinking progresses through the dying off of people whose thinking has ossified, increased longevity migh...

To avoid a non-sequitur 6 should be: 6). Therefore the probability that at present part of the universe can exist as a subject is also 1.

Ok, but that is not what physicists are referring to when discussing multiverse concepts. My question was regarding multiverse conceptions considered ...

This seems to assume the impossibility of a multiverse, containing multiple universes with different physics. Is that so? And if so, why think that a ...

Interesting choice. I've only played around with ChatGPT once. (And was impressed with the answer it produced in response to a fairly esoteric questio...

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From this paper: There is evidence, that at least some percentage of autism, corresponds to variation in cortical minicolumn structure, which are vari...

What I find particularly fascinating, in reading through this thread, is the following: Can anyone shed light on how Descartes would have meant with w...

Something to be aware of, in thinking about this subject, is that neuromorphic hardware seems to be rapidly approaching a level of technological devel...

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I'm only about halfway through this discussion, but I want to say thanks Fooloso4! I am really appreciating your commentary.

Exactly.

Awfully loose usage of "identical" there.

I think there is an important sense in which this isn't true. Yes, in principle we could learn all sorts of details, but I think it most likely that f...

Amen! I'd add, develop some expertise in some aspect of interacting with the natural world, whether that be fly fishing, growing bonsai trees, sailing...

My understanding of Penrose's view is that he thinks some element of quantum computation is needed for consciousness, but that seems a different matte...