Michael

"Belief" is a word in the English language that has a well-established meaning. If p-zombies are speaking English then the word "belief" means what it...

Sure, I just grabbed that definition from Wikipedia.

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Whatever "belief-analog" they have isn't belief. If the p-zombies are speaking English then the words they use mean what they mean in English, and "be...

Which is precisely why their claims, when made by them, are false. "I am conscious" is false when said by a p-zombie. "I believe that I am a p-zombie"...

Something like "the computer algorithm inside my head has caused me to speak the phrase 'I am not a p-zombie'"? Certainly that's possibly true, but an...

What does “p-consider” mean? P-zombies have no consciousness. They just have an outward appearance (including observable behaviour). You’ll need to ex...

You could just say “I am a p-zombie”.

The term “morning star” was used to refer to an object in space that appeared in the morning. The term “evening star” was used to refer to an object i...

I’m not sure that counts as belief. Belief seems to me to be a conscious activity. Machines can record and analyze information but they don’t believe ...

In the context of this discussion the terms refer to an object in the solar system.

One of these must be true: 1. “I consider myself to be a p-zombie” is false because you are a p-zombie and so don’t believe anything. 2. “I consider m...

The sense/reference distinction. By sense it’s metaphysically possible that they’re different but by reference it’s metaphysically necessary that they...

Naming and Necessity is 43 years old now. Certainly "recent" when compared to Plato, but it's not like we're talking about last year.

Drugs, Brains, and Behavior: The Science of Addiction The brain controls the body. Drugs (and other normal stimuli like light and sound) affect the fu...

Them killing someone after an argument after drinking alcohol wouldn't be a crime of passion then.

A p-zombie, by definition, will look and behave exactly like us. Anything we can do they can do. They're just not conscious.

They may also behave the same. Or it may be that both x and y have feelings but still behave differently.

They happen to cause action in our case, but it is possible that in some other world those same actions are caused by something other than feelings. T...

P-zombies that procreate are self-replicating machines that look and behave human.

Normativity in Metaethics There is more to the issue than you and some others seem willing to admit. Robust moral realists, non-realist cognitivists, ...

If Kripke is to be believed then any a posteriori necessity is metaphysically necessary even if not logically necessary, and so their inverse is metap...

I don’t need to argue for any theory. You’re shifting the burden of proof. You made much the same comment to another poster earlier in the discussion ...

I don’t understand this. This is a philosophy forum. Our entire purpose here is to argue the merits of some philosophical theory. Are you just here to...

I am saying that these are not the sort of sentences that are usually described as being moral sentences. This is a straightforward empirical observat...

Proof by contradiction is a valid argumentative response. I’m not the one claiming that there are moral facts. Is it arbitrary? Or is it a fact that s...

What exactly is wrong with my approach? You offer a definition and I provide counter examples that might show the inadequacy of the definition. If you...

I’ve only had a brief look into it, but Derek Parfit’s non-realist cognitivism is an interesting take. The theory is that there are true moral sentenc...

You said that moral obligations are concerned with justice. Are you saying that the normative claim “you ought listen to my music” is concerned with j...

I don't avoid admitting it. I've admitted it several times, in fact. What I see you and others avoiding is actually addressing the issues of cognitivi...

If you don’t recognise the difference between a moral obligation and a pragmatic suggestion then you ought try reading some philosophy.

You think non-cognitivists and error theorists don’t say that I should brush my teeth or that it’s best if I don’t eat too much sugar?

None of this requires positing the existence of moral facts. We can do all of this without introducing moral language. So when do you get to the part ...

It’s not pretend. There is a significant amount of well reasoned literature on anti-realist metaphysics, whether that be non-cognitivism, error theory...

No, I just understand how people use moral language. I know that quarks can be up, down, strange, etc., but I don’t know what this means.

I say that a claim like “you ought listen to my music” isn’t a moral claim because I recognise how people use moral language and recognise that they d...

I can remember what sorts of things other people describe as moral.

Doesn’t seem like a moral obligation though so I think you need to revise your definition.

Like “you ought to listen to my music, it’s really good”?

So to say that something is moral is to say that it is just? That just shifts the question to a new mystery. What is the ontological status of justice...

I don't think I've said this. I've only said that "one ought not X" can be understood in pragmatic terms, and that if Moore's open question argument i...

I don't know what "moral" means so I can't answer. It's pragmatic, sure. So what else is there? You're the one positing the existence of some other qu...

And that needs to be explained, not simply asserted. I don't know what this word "moral" means. Does it refer to some natural property in the world? I...

What does choosing not to volunteer to fight in Ukraine have to do with ethics? And it must be exhausting for you to have to consider "should I go fig...

Seems inconsistent with ordinary language. I ought to brush my teeth. I ought to buy my groceries whilst the sale is on. I ought not go out in the rai...

Because you won't address what I'm saying. Not every action is ethical. Not every choice requires ethical deliberation. My decision to play, or not pl...

I'm not saying that they can't be. I'm only saying that "pragmatic" and "moral" don't mean the same thing (see Moore's open question argument). When I...

He's mentally challenged.

You're the one who said that not causing suffering is both pragmatic and moral, so I'm asking you what you mean by "moral" when you say this.