Michael

Neural representations of perceptual color experience in the human ventral visual pathway

Of course it's relevant, but it's not colour. Just as stubbing one's toe is relevant to explain pain, but isn't itself pain. Pain and colour are what ...

My "stance" is repeating what those more knowledgeable of the matter have said: Maund: "It is this problem that historically has led the major physici...

You asked me for the difference between an hallucinated red and a red percept. There is no difference because an hallucinated red is a red percept. I ...

And this is the mistake that you are forever making. This has nothing to do with the various ways in which we might use colour words. This has nothing...

I haven't claimed that there is no difference. We've been over this. They differ in what causes the mental percept. Yes, it is. See all the quotes her...

Whether you call it "perception" or not is irrelevant. Call it "blugh" for all it matters. The only thing that is relevant is that the visual quality ...

The topic is about perception, not grammar. Science explains perception. This has nothing to do with language at all. We can imagine that we're deaf, ...

And hallucinations are what? A type of mental phenomenon, not a mind-independent property of tomatoes. Therefore colours are a type of mental phenomen...

Russell is not saying what (I think) you think he's saying. When he says "the sensation that we have when we see a patch of colour simply is that patc...

It's not my conclusion; it's what the science says, and I am simply reporting on that. I have no idea why you and others think that you can figure out...

They're not my words. I said that the tomato does not have the property that it appears to have. The property that it appears to have is in fact a sub...

Yes. Perception cannot be explained by armchair philosophy. It can only be explained by physics and physiology, and so I am simply reporting on what t...

Yes, and that's the fallacy. See the SEP article on color: This is what we naively do, and physics and neuroscience has proven it false. When you talk...

That the pen is red just is that it (ordinarily) appears red, and the word “red” in the phrase “appears red” does not refer to a mind-independent prop...

I don't care about how Wittgenstein viewed perception and colours. He was not a physicist or a neuroscientist and so he didn't have the appropriate ex...

You need to get over your obsession with language. The discussion is about perception, not speech. We must look to physics and physiology, not to all ...

I don't have an account because I'm not a physicist or neuroscientist. As I have repeatedly said, perception cannot be explained by armchair philosoph...

Try Vision Science – Photons to Phenomenolgy if you want to know more.

What are you talking about? Your obsession with language is leading you to nonsense. It's incredibly simple for anyone who isn't blinded by Wittgenste...

You're asking me which percepts the word "red" refers to. I can only answer such a question by using a word that refers to these percepts, and given t...

The red percepts are red, the pain percepts are pain. These questions are tiresome, so if it's all you can resort to then I'm going to end it here.

This isn't difficult Banno. If you understand what it means for pain to be a percept then you understand what it means for red to be a percept. If you...

There are lots of percepts, many of the same type. Every pain is a percept, every pleasure is a percept, every sour is a percept, every red is a perce...

Yes they are.

And? It's unclear what electrons are when you take them out of the context of the scientific papers that talk about them.

I haven't claimed that. I have only claimed that the red mental percept is our ordinary, everyday understanding of red (even if we do not understand t...

Well, if you're just going to dismiss the scientific evidence because it disagrees with Wittgenstein's nonsense story about a beetle then we're never ...

The science proves otherwise. They have a surface layer of atoms that reflect various wavelengths of light, but no colour, because colour is something...

Of course they are, else you wouldn't be seeing anything; you'd just have light reaching your eyes and then nothing happening, e.g. blindness or blind...

The question isn't "are tomatoes red?". The question is "do objects like tomatoes, strawberries and radishes really have the distinctive property that...

No, claiming that they really have these colours is a misunderstanding of the nature of colour. Vision science: Photons to phenomenology: Color: Neura...

I'm not. I'm saying that our everyday, ordinary conception of colours is that of sui generis, simple, qualitative, sensuous, intrinsic, irreducible pr...

I'm reporting what the science says. Opticks: Neural representations of perceptual color experience in the human ventral visual pathway: Vision scienc...

I'm not concluding anything from my experience. I am telling you what physics and neuroscience have determined. I accept what the scientists say about...

I responded to this above. If Newton doesn't answer the question then you need to clarify what you mean by it.

It's not clear what you mean by the question, but I'll quote Newton's Opticks: Rainbows look coloured because the various wavelengths of light cause v...

Correct, they are like tastes. They are mental percepts caused by neurological activity, often in response to sensory stimulation.

Light is just electromagnetic radiation, which is the synchronized oscillations of electric and magnetic fields. Colour is not a property of these fie...

There is no problem. The self-referential sentence "this sentence contains five words" is both meaningful and true. The self-referential sentence "thi...

What are you talking about? It’s really simple; the self-referential sentence “this sentence contains five words” is meaningful. I understand what it ...

It’s meaningful even when it’s referring to itself.

The redundancy theory of truth usually applies to all sentences, whether it be "this sentence contains five words" or "it is raining". Seems strange t...

In context we do know. If I hold out an apple and say "this apple is red" then it's obvious that I'm referring to the apple in my hand and not the app...

Here's the visible spectrum. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/JjZiz4MiXRxkiRWnQNo8f-1200-80.jpg.webp There is a clear distinction between wavelengths...

So? I'm talking about colours, not pens.

Yes it is.

Yes it can. The self-referential sentence "this sentence contains five words" is true because it contains five words. The self-referential sentence "t...

I am being very explicit with what I mean by the word "red", which is the opposite of equivocation. I'm saying that the colour red, as ordinarily unde...

It's grounded in that we can count how many words are in the sentence "this sentence contains fifty words". There are five words, not fifty, and so th...