Michael

But you seemed to question @"René Descartes" believing in God if he believed in a woman's right to choose, and then took issue with @"charleton" point...

Who said anything about approving of it in itself (whatever that means)? There are times where murder isn't wrong (assuming your definition), such as ...

Right. Which is what God did and what he told Saul to do. So self-defence is murder?

It's not sophistry. It's what it means. What do you mean by "murder" and "infanticide"?

Infanticide is the intentional killing of infants. God intentionally killed infants. He told Saul to intentionally kill infants.

Yes. It's right there in the quotes. God killed the firstborn of Egypt. God told Saul to kill children and infants.

I simply provided sources that showed God approved of infanticide (whether by his own hand or by the hand of another, e.g. Saul), even if in certain c...

Are we counting the Old Testament, then? And as you mentioned Exodus, remember the tenth plague?

There's this? Also this?

Are you OK with voluntary euthanasia, then?

That might be true, but misses the point of the pro-life argument, which is that the unborn child is said to have a right to live, and that this right...

Wrongful killing? The problem here is that the claim I was responding to was this: If we are to understand the word "murder" as meaning "wrongfully ki...

If it helps, consider this argument which uses the same reasoning: 1. A bachelor is an unmarried man 2. John is not an unmarried man 3. Therefore, Joh...

No I'm not. How so? It seems straightforward to me: 1. Murder is unlawful killing 2. Abortion is not unlawful killing 3. Therefore, abortion is not mu...

My argument is that murder is unlawful killing, that abortion isn't unlawful, and so therefore that abortion isn't murder.

I didn't say that. I didn't do that.

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent. This contrasts with something like capital punishment, which although the killing o...

There's no appeal to authority. Murder is defined as unlawful killing, and so if abortion is lawful then it isn't murder. That's not the same logic at...

So your claim is that if something is not morally right then it ought be made illegal?

I'm not equivocating. I'm using it in the sense of "not legal" throughout.

Murder is defined as "unlawful killing". Abortion isn't a form of unlawful killing. Therefore, abortion isn't a form of murder.

And abortion isn't illegal, and so therefore not murder.

I didn't say it's merely illegal. I said that it's illegal by definition.

Murder is illegal by definition. Your question doesn't make any sense.

Coercing someone to vote a certain way is a crime. And also can be done to sane victims.

Thanks.

Murder is an unlawful killing. Given the legality of abortion, abortion isn't murder.

I am considering the practical impact (see my edit). Your hypothetical example is an absurdity. In a real life case, the options are going to be the s...

The difference is that him deciding (and being allowed) to spend his inheritance on a scoop of ice cream will lead to him spending his inheritance on ...

Here's an article that reviews Brooks' book, and highlights the issue I raised above.

That review doesn't explain which charities are being supported and what volunteer work is being done (except for a mention of "the arts and the envir...

This doesn't follow.

:brow:

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People kill people with guns.

The Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee have released their memo.

The Children. It's the rule of funny.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-control-florida-shooting-school-teachers-arming-weapons-protect-parkland-a8222806.html Key parts:

32 new charges against Manafort and Gates.

Trump the genius. Let's put a rating system on video games and movies so that children don't see things they shouldn't see. :brow:

Deputy at Florida high school where 17 were killed 'never went in,' resigns Do you think that he should have gone in? I don't know much about police p...

It's the Dickey Amendment. Well there's a surprise. So it was introduced because they were afraid that gun control advocates are right?

What possible rationale is there for this?

"Come on", not "common".

Brilliant.

Although I wonder if this "self-defence" reasoning would be to apply original intent rather than original meaning. I would have thought the latter – t...

Never mind; found a good source here.

I didn't claim otherwise. I was pointing out that the reason an individual was given the right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a mili...

I have that effect on people.

Pun intended?