Michael

And you think that this is mutually exclusive with "his argument persuaded me"? It's not new. I first mentioned it a month ago. And you think that thi...

I wasn't offered any context when bongo fury asked me what they mean. So I think it's both reasonable and correct to say that "the cat is on the mat" ...

What do you think it means to be persuaded if not the appropriate areas of the brain being active in response to hearing or reading some words? The co...

They mean different things whether asserted or not.

I just don't understand what you're trying to say. All I am saying is that "the cat is on the mat" and "I think that the cat is on the mat" mean diffe...

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

The Neural Correlates of Persuasion: A Common Network across Cultures and Media Each of my posts has provoked you to respond. See the counterfactual t...

Yes.

Okay, well these are clearly two different claims: 1. The cat is on the mat 2. I think that the cat is on the mat (2) can be true even if (1) is false...

1. Words can't persuade 2. Words can persuade, but never do 3. Words can persuade, and sometimes do 4. Words can persuade, and always do Throughout th...

Are you using the turnstile as used here, e.g. where "? A" means "I know that A"?

It’s not evidence against the claim. That’s why it’s a non sequitur. That I haven’t done something just isn’t evidence that that thing is physically i...

I didn't say it wasn't falsifiable. Try reading my words. That we persuade, convince, provoke, incite, coerce, teach, trick, etc. isn’t pseudoscience....

"What would falsify your empriical fact that we swear with words" is also a simple question. I don't really know how to answer either. All I can do is...

"Michael hasn’t persuaded anyone therefore persuasion is physically impossible" is a non sequitur. That aside, I've persuaded many people in my life, ...

Yes, that was my claim. And you claimed that me not having convinced you falsifies my claim. This is a non sequitur.

I claimed that people can, and do, persuade one another. You claimed that because I have not persuaded you then my claim is falsified. This is a non s...

"You haven't done X to me, therefore X is impossible" is a non sequitur. This is such basic reasoning.

He even denies that we can kill someone by pushing them off a cliff. His understanding of causation is just so fundamentally absurd.

Proof by a common sense example from everyday life. I can turn on the lights, whether that be by flicking a switch, pulling a chord, pushing a button,...

No it doesn't. This is a non sequitur. I turned on the lights. The same is true of the Apple device responding to me saying "Siri, turn on the lights"...

I don't know why you continue to misrepresent my claims. I'm not going to repeat myself in correcting you.

No I didn't. All I am saying is that I can kill someone by pushing them off a cliff or by shooting them. This is irrefutable. And I can turn on the li...

P1. You have persuaded and influenced precisely no one C1. Therefore, your theory is falsified This is a non sequitur. You are misunderstanding the pu...

It may not be just a matter of complexity but also of composition. Organic molecules may be necessary for consciousness to emerge because other chemic...

It's not my problem because I didn’t claim that A alone can cause C. I only claimed that I can kill someone by pushing them off a cliff.

I can kill people by pushing them off a cliff or by shooting them. The fact that some people can survive being pushed off a cliff or shot does not ref...

"People don't kill people, guns do". It is both the case that I turn on the lights and the case that the Apple device turns on the lights. Your litera...

Yes I can. I can turn on the lights by saying "Siri, turn on the lights". The fact that your understanding of causation leads you to reject this, and ...

She's tougher or landed differently (e.g. not on her head). Yes, there are plenty of other causes in between. But it's still the case that I killed Jo...

Jesus Christ, Harry. I literally just explained it above. I swear to God you must have reading difficulties. I am going to try this one more time in b...

What are you talking about? Are you forgetting what the letters stand for? A = I push John off a cliff B = John hits the ground at high speed C = John...

Yes, which is factually true. If I push John off a cliff and he falls to his death then I caused his death, but if I push Jane off a cliff and she doe...

You really need to read what I have been writing and not this imaginary argument you think I'm making.

This is like asking what physical properties the words "Siri, turn on the lights" have that the words "Siri, play Despacito" don't have such that the ...

You're asking me how persuasion works? That will require a more in-depth account of psychology and neurology than I am capable of providing. I simply ...

I don’t have a definition. I just have the ordinary, everyday understanding of the word. Pushing the button caused the light to turn on, pushing someo...

I have only ever been addressing this claim: He claims that transduction in the cochlea is not caused by auditory stimulation. He claims that I can't ...

I agree, and always have. But it is still the case that A caused C. NOS4A2 disagrees. Again, what does it mean for "John hit the ground at high speed"...

This isn't an analogy. It is a single, standalone argument. A = I pushed John off a cliff B = John hit the ground at high speed C = John died I claim ...

A = I pushed John off a cliff B = John hit the ground at high speed C = John dies What does it mean for B to "override" A?

That is not all NOS4A2 is saying. See our actual exchange: So he isn't just arguing that some B is the "more immediate" cause of C; he's also arguing ...

I claimed that if I push someone off a cliff and they fall to their death then I caused their death. NOS4A2 disagreed, claiming that "hitting the grou...

It's just the ordinary, everyday, common sense understanding. I turn on the lights by pushing a button or by pulling a chord or by saying "Siri, turn ...

It seems to me that HarryHindu and NOS4A2 think that persuasion, coercion, incitement, etc. are only real if speech is able to "puppeteer" people's bo...

? I claimed that if I push someone off a cliff and they fall to their death then I caused their death. NOS4A2 disagreed. You responded to his disagree...

Are you agreeing with his claim that if I push someone off a cliff and they fall to their death then I didn't cause their death (only hitting the grou...

@"Sam26" It's worth noting that Wittgenstein disagreed with Gödel's incompleteness theorem (although apparently he misunderstood it). From Remarks on ...

It is both the case that them hitting the ground at a certain speed caused them to die and the case that I caused them to die by pushing them off the ...

So I turned on the lights but not really? Is "I turned on the lights" just a metaphor and not literally true? Either something causes A to do B or A d...