Then let’s phrase your scenario appropriately: What do your beliefs have to do with what InPitzotl talks about and what his words refer to? Your belie...
I’m not changing what it was. As I keep explaining there are facts, independent of belief. You accept this yourself in your scenario where you say tha...
Apologies for butting in, but I'd like to comment on this. That we can point at nothing isn't that we can't point at something. If there is a flower t...
If the experience is an hallucination then we do not have access to the facts, and what we say about the weather is false (even if we believe that it ...
I don't need to have access to the facts. I just need to accept that there are facts. If John believes that it is raining and Jane believes that it is...
@"Isaac" Which of these is true? 1. John is wet if he is standing in the rain 2. John is wet if I believe that he is standing in the rain Which of the...
You will get wet if it is raining and you stand outside uncovered. The above is true even if nobody judges it to be raining. You don't respond to the ...
If you ask people which of these is true, I believe most would say the first (not the second and not both): John knows what the weather is like if the...
See above. You’re equivocating. That it’s appropriate to say what you say isn’t that what you say is true. Your assertion that John is a bachelor can ...
This is further equivocation. The use is appropriate if you believe that John is an unmarried man, but if John isn’t an unmarried man (i.e your belief...
It may be appropriate to use the term “bachelor” if you believe that the person is an unmarried man, but that doesn’t mean that “bachelor” means “a pe...
Here's another example: John will die if: 1) John drinks the potion, and 2) the potion is toxic Do we interpret this claim as the below? John will die...
I have addressed this repeatedly. There are facts, independent of what anyone believes or judges. If these facts obtain then our beliefs are true. The...
I clarified the mistake you're making here: We use the term "bachelor" to refer to people we believe to be unmarried men, but that doesn't mean that "...
I’m trying to explain to you that your interpretation of “it is raining” as “I believe that it is raining” is misplaced in the context of the JTB defi...
The fact that you’ve repeatedly said that you interpret “it is raining” as “I believe that it is raining.” Applied to “John knows what the weather is ...
So you don’t understand the difference between these? 1. John knows what the weather is like iff it actually is as he justifiably believes it to be 2....
So you finally understand that the third condition isn’t “I believe that X is true” or “the language community believes that X is true”? You finally u...
The third condition is saying that the actual weather has to be as the person believes it to be. If you accept that there is such a thing as the actua...
We don’t need to use the term “true”. We can say that: John knows that it is raining iff: 1. John believes that it is raining, 2. John is justified in...
Right, so your entire argument rests on some form of extreme anti-realist metaphysics that denies that beliefs can be false or that there are belief-i...
Which is wrong as I have repeatedly explained. 1) John is a bachelor iff John is an unmarried man 2) John is a married woman 3) The language community...
Look at the entire context: So you are interpreting the sentence "John is a bachelor iff John is a man and John is unmarried" as the sentence "John is...
Yes you did. Here: This is false. In fact, John is a bachelor iff John is a man and John is unmarried. Because what? I am simply informing you of how ...
You previously claimed that John is a bachelor iff the language community believes that John is an unmarried man. That's false. The language community...
There's a difference between saying "a bachelor is an unmarried man because the language community uses the term 'bachelor' to refer to people they be...
We are quite capable of asserting things that we don't believe. For example; Issac's surname is "Smith". This assertion says nothing about what I beli...
So? It is still a fact that, prior to me correcting them, John is not a bachelor even though the language community believes that John is an unmarried...
The language community. They all (incorrectly) believe that John is a bachelor. I correct them to inform them that John is in fact a married woman. Th...
I don't understand what you're saying here. I am simply asserting the fact that John is a bachelor iff John is a man and John is unmarried. Whether or...
Re-reading this properly (I skimmed earlier), I've noticed that you've specified "despite obviously being a woman and married." Now you're changing th...
That's not how it works. When the entire language community claimed that the Sun revolved around the Earth, they didn't mean something else by "the Su...
No it doesn’t. The language community around you can incorrectly believe that I am not married when in fact I am and so incorrectly believe that I am ...
When I'm out in the rain getting wet, I certainly have an understanding of what reality is like outside my belief that it is raining; I have the actua...
Whether or not your use is felicitous does not depend on what you believe. You might only assert that someone is a bachelor if you believe that they a...
And that's categorically false. John might be a woman dressed as a man and lying about her marital status. The fact that the language community genera...
As a simpler example: John is a bachelor iff: 1) John is a man, and 2) John is unmarried You want to interpret this as the claim that John is a bachel...
I might say "John knows X" if I believe that X is true, but I wouldn't say "John knows X if I believe that X is true." You're conflating the meaning o...
You're completely missing the point. Given the proposition "I believe that it is raining", what does the part in bold mean? It doesn't mean the same t...
As a speech act asserting that one knows X may be equivalent to asserting that one believes X, but as propositions "I believe X" is not equivalent to ...
You're talking about speech acts, not propositions. If we were simply interpreting speech acts then consider this dialogue: Michael: "It's raining." A...
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