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Please just cite the post where you think you responded cogently and we can look at it again. If I missed something I will be happy to admit it. I'm n...

Again there is a distinction between 'kinds' and 'instances' which I think both you and TGW are missing.

No, I already covered this objection with this: "Red" is used to refer to the colour that we see and also to the part of the spectrum of light that pr...

I don't know if this implied criticism is (also, or only) meant to be directed at me, but I will just point out that I responded directly to what you ...

It does seem a shame that direct discussion of the arguments in jamalrob's excellent paper (judging from what I have so far managed to find the time t...

Are you invoking a resurrection?

Then all of common usage that refers to 'smells', tastes', 'colours' in a different sense than 'smelling', 'tasting' and 'seeing colour' and so on, mu...

OK, fine, if you don't want to engage with the argument, then have it your own way.

>:O I am not conflating the two senses of heat, as evidenced by my use of the phrase "from another perspective". You are, ironically, accusing me of d...

Sure, but an animal that has a certain kind of receptor will see the 'red wavelength' roughly the same as another animal that has the same kind of rec...

The taste of an apple is just the taste of an apple. Apples have certain flavours, no two apples the same flavour, and no apple will taste exactly the...

Yes, it can. A sour apple will taste more like another sour apple than it does like a sweet apple; even if they are never tasted. Just as one mountain...

The receptors (cones) that have the right physical characteristics to be affected by light in the wavelength range you cited (so-called 'red light' ) ...

No, the taste of an apple is what it tastes like; some taste sour, some sweet, all taste subtly different.

I think you are conflating the taste of the apple with the tasting of it. I don't think many realists would argue that the tasting of an apple is pres...

Yes, but such a series of perceptions of an apple (if it were indeed possible) would not be correct, in the sense that it would not be within a range ...

Apples are tasty, even when not being tasted, in the same sense that the world is visible, even when not being seen.

You don't think that if you told people that you perceived apples as square, black and white, roughly textured, smelling like rotting fish carcasses, ...

Actually it does make perfect sense. Fruiterers often have signs like "Tasty Apples" above their stacks of apples, which are obviously not 'being tast...

We are not talking about phenomenal immediacies like colors but about different categories of experience that are well understood and distinguished by...

From a philosophical perspective I am not a fan of representational theories of perception generally. Hegel, and various philosophers since, have pres...

I can't see why you think there is such a problematic tension between these two ways of talking about perception; the one from within (phenomenology) ...

I agree with you, that is another way of saying it.

Yes, I agree, and that is just what I was alluding to.

I don't agree. Our ability to tell is not merely phenomenological it is also based on the whole accumulated logic of intersubjective experience, inclu...

It seems to me the whole argument between Direct and Indirect Realism is based on a kind of category error. Direct Realism is correct logically and ph...

I can't resist jumping in here because it seems to me you are misrepresenting jamalrob's argument so egregiously. It should be (and jamalrob may corre...

The idea that experience is all just a dream, an hallucination or virtual is senseless without the distinction between real and illusory, so I haven't...

Isn't the distinction just a logical one based on our understanding of different categories of experience? There is a difference between the possibili...

Perhaps this is what you are referring to as "epistemological commitments": that everything could be an hallucination? If everything were, or even cou...

I don't know what you are referring to here. Could you elaborate. I understand you are more focused on your exchange with jamalrob, so when you have t...

TGW, do you think there is any contradiction involved in saying that we can be fooled by hallucinations some of the time but not all of the time? It i...

I was not thinking about dreams when I wrote that. Since you have raised them I will say that although dreams are obviously not deliberately modelled ...

Is there any problem with saying the real world is the original one, the one the virtual world was modelled on?

I think the issues with Dasein are fundamentally philosophical issues; how to cope, how to be, how to live, and so on. I agree with you that after his...

I haven't actually claimed that nature was universally revered prior to the technological age, and I don't believe that idea can be rightly imputed to...

I like Deleuze and Guattari's definition: philosophy is the creation of new concepts. New concepts are created to find new ways of looking at problems...

Thanks bert :)

What the hell! Here's another poem, recent.... River of Divinity Literature for the light goodness knows by reason of these imaginings or perhaps of s...

If I gave the impression that I was "siding" "with reality over virtual reality' then it was probably due to poor expression on my part. I certainly a...

I hadn't thought of it as a "victory parade", but in any case....I don't think the question is ambiguous in the way you are suggesting, because repres...

I think we may be talking at cross-purposes here Aaron, perhaps because my expression has been unwittingly ambiguous. I would not accept that unicorns...

The tendentiously rhetorical way you frame the idea notwithstanding, are you claiming that the ancients and medieval people of Europe did not generall...

I just saw that you have already made the point about the difficulty of rigidly classing paintings as 'representational' and 'non-representational'. Y...

Actually it is a detail. If you click on the following link and scroll about 75% of the way down the page you will find it. It is captioned "NUMBER 8"...

BTW, jamalrob I have not had time to do more than skim your paper, but from what I have read I it seems cogent, methodically argued and very well writ...

You say that "virtual space is actually categorically different than "real space." so I think you are agreeing with me, even though it might seem as t...

No, I wasn't suggesting the two are joined such that virtual entities could be "going anywhere" in natural space. All I was pointing out is that when ...

I agree with this very much. Although I do want to make a caveat that I think the best Abstract (and in a less obvious sense so-called representationa...

No problems, Thorongil, we all misspeak at times. I do think there is something in your clarification of what you meant; namely that artworks may invi...