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Yes, but the import of that fable is that when implausible disaster is proclaimed over and over people become complacent, and don't recognize plausibl...

God knows.... :joke:

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From wood-turner to head-turner, eh? Quite possibly, and if not I would have appreciated the instruction. :wink:

As I see it morality is inter-subjective and does not exist in a rational vacuum, so I guess that would qualify it as cognitive, in an enactive or emb...

Sure, but it is nonetheless humans who program the machines, no?

Yes, but I was accused, without supporting argument for the accusation, that I did not understand it. :smile:

I'm just not convinced it is a new context, despite things being worded differently. But if you are right, then it is cool. And as Wittgenstein said: ...

No, I agree with what you say here. There was a part-typo, part poor expression that in what you quoted, that I have now corrected.

I think that's true when it comes to secular "ordinary folk" but what @"Bartricks" is essentially proposing is a form of "Divine Command" theory, and ...

Resilience or resistance? So, for you reason is a human faculty and Reason is the values and prescriptions that faulty gives us an awareness of? But w...

As I see it you are simply reifying a human faculty.

If you say that moral values are so as such regardless of anyone's judgement you are an absolutist. The only way you could be considered to be a relat...

Can you explain the difference you apparently see in these two statements apart from "the subject being reason"? As to the latter can you explain how ...

Your argument may be valid; even commonsense arguments can be valid. But is it sound? Your underlying unstated premise is that there are absolute mora...

That's nonsense; we know what wheels are, we haven't forgotten, and so we cannot reinvent them from scratch.

You have argued that to be moral is to be valued by a subject. And you have argued that since we, as subjects, often value differently, we human subje...

Why won't you drop this bad analogy between a situation in which someone unknown may be discovered, and a situation in which we are speculating about ...

Popper is mentioned a few times in that article. The idea that metaphysics has no place in science, or that metaphysical speculations are literally me...

Well you have said she is "a god" and now that she has traditionally been named 'Reason'. There have been many gods, would you say there have been man...

Open your eyes and look around you, Nosferatu. Or perhaps you shy away from the bright light of day?

And who is this "she who is utterly herself"? Mother nature perhaps?

Yes, moral values may just be functionally healthy human feelings, based on empathy or kind-ness, such as can also be seen in social animals.

Well, yes of course the "common" conception of reality is too limited if it denies real potential. Aligning the reality of potential or possibility wi...

OK, I'll try once more. "She" cannot be merely "a god" because only one god could be the absolute subject required for your argument. If there are oth...

I don't think logical possibility is in any sense (necessarily) real potential; in other words, just because something is logically possible I don't s...

Yes, we have logical possibility and real potential. You could say real potential is actual in the sense that it is, in at least some sense, active; i...

The problem, as I see it, is that you don't listen (figuratively speaking) to anything anyone says. You are not on your own in that but are a member o...

The more honest declaration would be "We have faith in God" or "We do not have faith in God". Religion is, as far as I am concerned outside the realm ...

Change is temporal movement, which we conceptualize as past, present and future. There is no "static present", really, for us, there is just past and ...

If she didn't understand she was being euthanazed how would she have distinguished the experience from being, for example sedated. or given flu shots ...

If an act is good if the god values it, or right because the god prescribes it, that still leaves open the question as to why we should believe that. ...

One nun says to the other "Where's the candle", and the other replies, "Yes, it does, doesn't it"?

I'm sorry Barty, but I'm not interested in discussing the analogy, because I don't think it is either relevant or helpful. If you're not interested in...

Yes, none of us knows anything for sure. And if any belief is presented as being certainly true in any absolute sense that is intellectually dishonest...

Right so the problem is not just with religious claims then? Personally I do think there is a general problem with religious claims, insofar as they a...

I'm not asking who the subject is, but what kind of imaginable subject could make values moral simply by valuing them. This "analogy" is a red herring...

To say that the subject whose values are moral is the subject whose values are moral tells us nothing: it is a tautology. You say that "she" is a god ...

You mean if no evidence or argument for the truth of the belief is given? If evidence or argument is offered and it is not logically inconsistent, and...

I haven't said that any premises are being challenged, if by that you mean being asserted to be incorrect or inconsistent; I have said that you are eq...

Maybe they are valued by society and are moral as such. Society is not a subject, though, even if it can be thought as the totality of subjects. There...

It's not the word vale which is ambiguous , but what it means to be valued by a subject. The only such subject(s) that has/ have ever been conceived i...

Both premises equivocate between what it means to be valued by a subject.If all that were required for some judgement, principle or act to count as mo...

I don't agree that eternalism denies the phenomenological temporal movement which is understood in terms of past, present and future. It merely denies...

OK, I get your usage. But where I think the confusion comes in is that 'objective' is mostly used to refer to things which are considered to be existe...

Gee, I never do that! :wink:

But this thread is, as I read it, is about offensive behavior, not about descriptions of offensive behavior.

The unthinking behavior of humanity does not belong on a philosophy forum; where thinking is the paramount virtue: that is precisely the point that yo...

Some people with dementia are fed, washed and put to bed when they do not consent. If they don't understand what's going on they will likely object to...

So, the "bread and butter" of unthinking humanity should be valued? Actually I wouldn't call it "the bread and butter" but the vomit and excrement.