If they think philosophically I would say they are philosophers. If someone follows Christian morals then I would say they are Christians. I asked bef...
I don't take Thanissaro's words as authoritative, and I have seen no cogent argument; merely more assertions. Gotama accepted the general opinion of h...
I already know that one's socioeconomic conditions may colour one's views. But people differ; so no hard and fast generalized conclusions are justifie...
Whose life situation are you referring to? This is nothing but your own prejudicial view, and it has nothing to do with that passage you quoted from m...
In my view it's the core principles of practice and ethical principles which matter; the rest is disposable furniture. If the guy you spoke about foll...
I think all that matters is whether the practice of the so-called secular Buddhists is as effective as the practice of traditionally oriented adherent...
:up: Right, I tend to think that direct and indirect realism are just two ways of speaking about the same thing. Indirect realism says that sense data...
I agree with that. I interpret ??nyat? to mean that things have no stable identity. If the idea of stable identity is due to our attachments to things...
According to Batchelor there is little or no evidence in the Pali texts to suggest that Gotama was concerned with ontology or the question of truth. H...
If this were actually possible then the (same) flower would look red to me and blue to a bee. What's the problem? To @"Hanover": The problem I see wit...
I read the article and, sorry to say, I found no counterargument to Batchelor's interpretation there. The states you say that some Buddhists devote th...
"Faith in humanity" is too too general, too abstract. Faith in humanity's what? Faith in humanity's love and compassion? Not everyone is loving and co...
Batchelor seems to me to be asserting that the view of Buddha as life-denying is mistaken and that satisfaction is to be found, if at all, only in "li...
From the Wikipedia article you cited: In the Pali canon, the distinction is not made between a lower truth and a higher truth, but rather between two ...
Right and what were we disagreeing over earlier regarding interpretation? If the most reliable testament we have as to what Gotama actually said is th...
I agree,. Schopenhauer's critique of Kant's "things in themselves" was that they can't be plural because difference and change is nothing more than a ...
I may have said that the distinction is a valid logical one, which I think it is. But I agree with Hegel's critique; that the idea of the thing in its...
What possible stake could anyone have in something completely unknowable? The "religious, the spiritual, the theists", contradicting themselves, think...
The reason I disagree with this is that the idea of the thing in itself becomes irrelevant if we absolutely can't know what it is, which is exactly ho...
Do you know that you don't know what it is? Or do you merely not know whether you know what it is or not, because you are seeking an impossible, incoh...
That is not even recognizable as the same text and nor is it titled "Chapter of Eights". The issue was not about whther the Gotama of the Pali Canon p...
Regarding the idea that sages can, "above and beyond interpretation" directly and infallibly see "the ultimate truth", consider the following from Ste...
Why should a "noumenal whatever" with unknowable or no attributes reliably produce the experience of a particular flower? Who wrote the algorithm? Thi...
As the old saying goes, there are no flowers in my head, but you can see where they've been, :wink: (Well actually you can't; you'll need to open the ...
I didn't find what you wrote there understandable without putting in considerable effort. My point was only that it is not the process of perception o...
In that view it is not that a perception is an object that bears properties like a flower bears properties, but that it is an object that bears proper...
Words are multiplying unnecessarily here and causing you some confusion it seems. Your perception of the flower is neither a representation of the flo...
It seems story facts can't be true or false until irrevocably committed to print, because otherwise the author might change her mind. They could be tr...
Sounds like a good option. Maybe that's the salient difference between the logic of fiction and logic of fact. We say that propositions concerning wha...
Right, so the incompleteness of fictional characters means that we can only infer about them what follows from what is told, and much may remain untol...
Does the thrice-telling make it true, or does the Bellman tell it three times because it is true? Perhaps this is the much that yet remains to be said...
I haven't read Lewis Carrol since I was a kid. I have read that he was also a logician. According to that logic, If you say three times that if you sa...
Do you mean literature in which inconsistencies and contradictions abound. I'm trying to think of an example. Twain attributes some inconsistency to F...
More aptly referred to as being stipulated or written, rather than being true. no? We have good reason to believe it is true that it is written that H...
That possibility (even if it is a possibility) cannot mean anything to me. I think enlightenment is possible, but I don't see how it could consist in ...
The more I think about that question, the more incoherent it seems. To be something is to instantiate some attribute or set of attributes, no? Attribu...
Did I say it was all that matters? I said that interpretation is significantly involved in areas other than in directly observed events where, it coul...
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