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I've had several tries at it, but it doesn't work.

I agree those philosophers were pivotal to the development of modern philosophy. But then what about Spinoza, Hegel, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Husserl, ...

:rofl: Album alanis? All bum? All anus? Hugh Janus? Is that the extent of your toilet philosophy Bortricks or is there more?

It's perhaps telling that there's no Nobel Prize for philosophy.

How much richer could an irony become?

It's not implausible to think that watching a spider build its web might relax you and enrich your understanding of the world, and thus enrich your li...

You seem to be contradicting yourself here; specifically, if you say everything consists in configurations of waves/particles and that objects are con...

If there's no bird, but just a collection of wave/particles responding to another collection of wave/particles and imagining it's a bird. then how do ...

:rofl: Don't be stupid, Bloatricks; try exercising those few neurons of yours that might be working and you might find that other idle neurons join in...

When I say it is present for you, I mean that it appears present for you and that it actually is present for you. Being present has no more than a rel...

But, bartfuckstupididiottricks, I'm not claiming that there is any universal subjective present. What is present for me is not present for you, i.e.,t...

The event is present to you in both the temporal sense and in the sense of presenting itself to you when you experience it. There's not much more to b...

If lightning strikes 10 kilometers away from me and you are right there, you will see it slightly before I do. But you will hear the thunder slightly ...

That said, it is quite possible that our assumption that the past is immutable speaks to nothing more than our own prejudice. Of course we do think th...

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Ah, but one non-goat won't be sufficient if eating is ongoing.

I think it depends on how you conceive philosophy. I understand W mostly from secondary sources and a couple of courses at Uni; I've dipped into, but ...

:cool: That's pretty much what I'd been thinking. Although I wasn't sure about W's take on that since I haven't studied the Tractatus.

Not really. it seems to me that they correspond to actual (which I'm saying are also logical) relations.

I've already acknowledged that not all causes, for example merely physical causes, are normative reasons. I'm saying that causes of human and some "hi...

I was thinking along the lines of relations, insofar as they are actual and not merely conceptions, as logical operations ("logic" there pertaining to...

The question this seems to beg is whether there any relation-less predicates, and whether relations are any different than logical operations. Of cour...

That's true for my part, at least, I don't disagree with anything there.

Cheers.

Yes, I think in the Tractatus 'fact' denotes states of affairs, and not the propositions that represent those states of affairs.

"Fact" is used variously to refer to true propositions and states of affairs.

Yes, that rings a bell. I remember reading somewhere that ( at least some) of the Positivists saw him as their mentor and wanted him to participate in...

You're referring to those in the Vienna School who thought that?

I don't disagree. Both Wittgenstein and Popper, for quite different reasons, refused to be identified as part of that school. I can't argue with that!...

I don't think we disagree in this connection either. So, would you say the Logical Positivists, and the Analytics whose main concern is with propositi...

Fair enough, but that wasn't really one of the questions I asked. To answer one of my own questions I think very few philosophers today understand phi...

The idea of progress is the idea of movement towards something ever better. In the context of knowledge this means.more detailed, more comprehensive, ...

If I thought you knew what you were talking about then that would condition my behavior, I would behave differently if I didn't think you knew what yo...

There are different kinds of causes for actions and normative reasons are one of them. Desires are another, and instincts are another. So that all rea...

Answer the question: do normative reasons cause us to do things or not? What do you claim we know when we have a normative reason to do something? Why...

It means that it is a distinction without a real difference. But you won't attempt to answer the questions I posed which will show that. And what reas...

You are a troll, Bloatricks; you have no intention of discussing anything in good faith. As soon as you're stumped you resort to insult and evasion. E...

I've already acknowledged there is a conceptual distinction, and I've already explained why I don't think it is substantive. So answer the questions a...

You claim that reason does not deceive us and that God is reason. It follows that you believe God does not deceive us. If this is not on account of om...

Stop squirming: answer the questions, address the argument.

There is no such substantive, as opposed to a merely conceptual distinction. For example, when we do something we desire to do, does that mean we are ...

I understand the supposed distinction between normative reasons and adaptively advantageous reasons. We do things because we want to. If we don't do s...

I said it is false because an evolutionary account does have to invoke reasons for doing things; namely that they are adaptively advantageous. Are you...

You're right; my mistake; its a long time since I studied logic. In any case my point was that premise 2 is untrue, which makes you're argument unsoun...

Sound means true and unsound means false. Arguments are unsound, even thought they may be valid, if their premises are unsound. I told why 2 is false....

Premise 2 is unsound: the reason to do things invoked by an evolutionary account is that to do whatever is adaptively advantageous or at least not ada...

Cheers.

I found an electronic version of the book, but I am yet to delve into it. Too much on my reading list, and too little time to read!

You've fulfilled my every expectation Bortricks. By the way I love the consistency of your God. He is reason so he, being omni-benevolent, would never...

Right, but you didn't answer the question as to whether it was a quote from or paraphrase of the Meister... :smile: I think where he and I might disag...