Janus

:up: Ha, that is more a case of finding freedom, not in the bottle, but in the contents; and a very temporally limited freedom it is, often followed a...

:lol: Well, there are demonstrations, and then there are acceptances of the soundness of those demonstrations. Likely it is we all accept our own; hop...

Right, so the (wordless) experience comes first and the post hoc narrative follows, but the latter, no matter how much in it is distorted, left out, o...

Since plants, not to mention spectrometers, don't possess central nervous systems and brains it might be thought to be implausible to claim they have ...

As I said it is just an example of a possible experiment I thought of, so I don't know. But dogs are said to be able to see colours, so I guess some e...

Of course we learn colour terms via culture. They are part of language obviously. Animals have no symbolic language such as we do, But some animals ca...

I denied the role of language in determining the colours seen, but of course language is involved in conceptualizing and talking about the colours see...

Gross, but appropriate in an inappropriate kind of way.

'Red' is the word used to denote the colour of the post box, wine and rose in the example you gave.

"Red' is a generalization applied to all of them. The experience is the experience regardless; is the post box red or maybe more orange, is the red wi...

:up: Makes sense, in different contexts in regard to saying 'yes' or 'no' to the use of loaded words.

forget Hugh Grant: as @"Bartricks" would say, " Bloody Hugh Janus".

Can you determine whether or not it is in one's "pragmatic favour"?

Decidable?

So, which is the trap: imagining that there is a real, determinate mountain there independent of human experience and conception or imagining that the...

As there can be in believing one has escaped a trap one has merely imagined.

"Better the bottle than Bannoland", saith the foxy Fly.

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I finally found time to read that article and it says nothing I didn't already know; of course congenitally blind people can form some sort of concept...

It depends on what you mean by "know". I know what my friend looks like, but I can't put that "knowing" into words that could communicate what she loo...

Is saying that a physicalist conceptual scheme is, from its own perspective, more physically fundamental saying anything at all?

The principle of identity; the mountain is a mountain is a mountain is vacuous and tells us nothing whatsoever. I'm not talking about the arbitrarines...

I'm not claiming anything...least of all that it is a mountain, or not a mountain... I'm trying to get you to see that there is no determinate fact of...

No, it is both a mountain and not a mountain and neither a mountain nor not a mountain. But keep on insisting if you think it weill get you somewhere

Yes, not a something, but not a nothing either.

I- anus: i.e. I am an arsehole...but at least I am not like and/or don't follow anyone. Hilarious...you expect me to say what it is that can't be said...

No, the point was that we all have our own mountains of experience, and you want to flatten that out such that there could be no difference as to what...

Makes sense...Ciceroni-anus the execrable...or excremental... :joke:

Blind from birth? Reference?

Whose mountain was It?

No, you need to think a bit harder and less rigidly than that; Hillary's climbing was a set of subjective experiences.

'Mountain' has no determinate reference, hence it can indeed be for RussellA a label to a set of subjective experiences. "Meaning is public" is not ri...

I think this is right; the objectification consists just in the word-object; a generalized, formal abstraction.

OK, so if the stuff of experience is sense impressions would you class those as qualia? I would have said qualia are the qualities of sense impression...

Don't know about "2." but the rest sound about right. Of course Dennett does not champion qualia. I think the term is OK as long as it remains as a me...

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:up: “Don't for heaven's sake, be afraid of talking nonsense! But you must pay attention to your nonsense.” ? Ludwig Wittgenstein There are some here ...

Right! Collectively, the 'identity' world of entities, things or objects, has been abstracted and formalized; abstracted from the determinably in-comm...

:lol: that's cool... I like Jeff Buckley's 'Hallelujah', but comparing to Leonrad's version seems to me like comparing apples and oranges.

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It really depends on what you mean by "data". Is there data in a computer when it is not being used? Are the effects of light in the eye and the subse...

I look for character and resonance in singing voices, not purity of tone and pitch (although I'm not against that either, if character and resonance a...

Perhaps the "unconscious non-visual awareness" in people with blindsight is the counterpart to the pre-conscious visual awareness in sighted people. I...

That's right, I think if someone can imagine an infinite, eternal being who is capable of creating the Earth, everything on it and everything else tha...

I wasn't seeking to introduce a dualism of consciousness and body. the physiological study of vision tells us that there processes involving the eye t...

I'm not seeing any significant difference in the way you've formulated it. I don't see it as an inference, but as an experience. In our visual field w...

It seems that via the eyes and brain an ever-moving image of the "external" is formed. Who is it that sees this image? Is the image already there "in ...

I'm not clear where you are going with this: can you elaborate. You could ask the same question about a camera. Of course there is no "homunculus' ins...

"If rationality is using knowledge to achieve goals"; that sounds right, and I would include reasoning from existing knowledge/ understanding to enabl...

:up: That makes sense; a different usage. I was thinking of understanding as being the same as realization, as it might be said that you don't really ...