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1. There exists a system that at least intends to divide people according to a criterion it calls "race". 2. That system marks some members of our soc...

Using this as an insult you only show your ignorance of the Guadalcanal Diary version.

I think it likely that around half of what I posted in this thread is dead wrong; I just don't know which half.

A few more thoughts: I think sometimes people discussing philosophy have a hard time with the idea of disagreement: it's very tempting to think, "If y...

I for one am not here to win arguments, and wish often that the culture of this forum were more collegial, more cooperative. I often fall into defendi...

That's a reasonable question. 1. If my rights are not violated, but another's are, is that properly described as a benefit I receive that the other do...

Very valuable points, thank you. That's pretty funny, and I'm not going to go anywhere the issues raised in that story.

For the first at least -- don't remember reading anything about the others -- this is a thing with philosophy as an academic discipline isn't it? I re...

(( This ended up very long -- apologies. )) Having pressed that distinction I'm going to muddy the waters a bit. Quite a bit. There's a certain way of...

Sure, something like that, and that would be the semantic content. "Proposition" is probably mostly used to pick up content + assertoric force, but th...

I only mean that we might want a more, let's say, "neutral" way of describing the semantic content of a statement, so that we can bring out the relati...

Even taking "proposition" as a term of art, it's not at all clear that this is what we ascribe truth to. Some concept of force, and in particular asse...

Yeah that would be me. For instance, I'm not convinced that '... is true' is a predicate at all, so the scheme I presented there is only a nod toward ...

Thanks for indulging my questions -- I hope it's also of value to you to formulate your views for us to read. (I have some conflicting allegiances, so...

This is next door to the view I've come to. Certainly the Liar appears, or attempts, or purports to predicate falsehood of itself. But there is no way...

You've addressed this sort of question at length, but doesn't this strike you as an odd thing to say: I don't think my eyebrows would have shot up if ...

These glimpses into your views of philosophy -- or at least glimpses of how many contemporary academic philosophers view their work, perhaps you among...

But it is not like the examples you give of nonsense. "... is not true" is just the sort of thing we say about sentences, and it is here said, with th...

I wonder if you could clarify something for me: when you talk about getting rid of Cut and Contraction, is the idea that we can build useful formal sy...

The prosentential theory also throws out 'This sentence is true', I believe, on the grounds that this is only purported anaphora; being your own antec...

Here's roughly what I'm thinking at the moment. The Liar purports to predicate falsehood of itself, but as asserting and denying the Liar come to the ...

The idea would be something like this: The Liar does not allow us to accept or reject it, and that's somewhat reminiscent of what goes wrong with 'The...

Here.

Could you rephrase the question?

And obviously what I had in mind when I said 'presupposition'. Now consider statements that have presuppositions that aren't contingently but necessar...

By way of gossip, I'm almost certain Godel himself said as much, and may even have suggested he wasn't thrilled about how close the arguments were. To...

For 'claims' here and there above, perhaps 'presupposes' is what we need. 'This is the prettiest square circle anyone has ever drawn.'

Should add: by predicating 'not true' of itself, the Liar claims to be a member of the class of sentences that are true or false, and perhaps it is th...

I've been thinking, if we're going to (what we needn't) treat True(...) as a predicate applicable to sentences, then we should also be able to talk ab...

Ugh, the Liar is such a pain. I was about to slap my forehead and say you're absolutely right, but are you? I'm genuinely not sure now. The discharge ...

Sorry -- knew that would be confusing. It's valid because it doesn't matter that (Li) is part of the expression (Li) & ~(Li); what matters is that tha...

The usual one: if P entails a contradiction, P is false.* If you want, you could say the problem is that both the Liar and its negation are false, whi...

I'm not sure it amounts to anything. @"SophistiCat" and I have ended up having a discussion that's hard to distinguish from an argument about whether ...

I almost gave 'Its syntax is fine' as an example of a rule for assuming a sentence is meaningful! But-- That's kinda like saying the semantic problems...

I want to follow this but I can't.

Reporter: 'So Canada is a terrorist state?' President: 'Yes.' R: 'But you don't believe Canada is a terrorist state.' P: 'Of course not.' It's just a ...

On the one hand, sure, you can imagine having to explain to someone who doesn't get it what the problem here is, and that might feel like guiding them...

It's not just my objection; it's the revenge pattern: if you hope to avoid the Liar by using some other semantic predicate also available in your lang...

i'm a month late, but this is timeless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQcf6qRMZMo

In a natural language, even in philosophical English, the object language and the meta-language are one. I do not understand your point.

If you have the patience for it, I'd like to set aside my position and just examine yours for now. My goal at the moment is just to understand your po...

I'm not so sure. 'Whether an ideal speaker would consider P meaningful' looks to me like a separate criterion of meaningfulness -- that is, not just a...

I've been keeping in my back pocket an example of this that comes straight out of speech act theory. Suppose the US has information that some very hig...

What you have here is in the form of a proof but of course it is not a proof because we're not talking about a formal system -- Tarski told us long ag...

It's hard not to see it, but splitting the Liar in half allows you to assign truth values, so you can end up with a sentence that is arguably true but...

What makes it a paradox is, as you say, it appears analogous to many other sentences that are just fine, but when we try to assign it a truth value, s...

We're skipping a step though, aren't we? Even if we're not going to reach for a separate criterion of meaningfulness (not relying on truth conditions)...

You know it's funny you spotted that in this necro-thread because lately I've started warming to the general idea of dialectic -- though I don't know ...

Agreed across the board. Do you have a way of fleshing out 'commitment'?

Tiny additional point: folk psychology freely mixes reasons and explanations, especially when the mental state in question includes emotions as well a...