I wish this were the case, but its often not true. Especially when someone is in a powerful position and the law does not punish them for their transg...
Is that what the book is including? Misinformation in such broad terms should of course not be prohibited. Generally when this subject comes up, its a...
I think worrying about misinformation is obvious. Lies are intended to distort reality for a particular individual's gain. A distorted perception of r...
Logical space to my knowledge is the space of all possibilities, not necessities. Its a possible world logic, where anything that is not impossible ca...
The world cannot be made up of counterfactuals just by the numbers alone. If it is the case that what is in front of me is an apple, then that is one ...
If you genuinely care about the issue, read here: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/14044/knowledge-and-induction-within-your-self-context/p1 ...
Correct, this is instinct or innate capabilities. Absolutely I agree that not all thinking is rational. But back to the crow. If the crow had experime...
A person who is using a screw to fix a pipe also has a problem. Inductive reasoning is a tool. It has its proper applications, and improper applicatio...
This is defining the term to exclude animals without debate then. This is also an incredibly narrow term that historically has not required language u...
The problem with this definition is it does not describe whether the person's intuitive thinking was the result of previous rational thoughts that one...
This is why the definition and meaning of the phrase "Rational thinking" needs to be clearly listed and agreed upon first. If we all have different vi...
No. The gloves are simply a thought experiment they used to explain the idea. The idea is what is being explained, the gloves are just a starting poin...
Its a logical footnote to prevent solipsism is all. There is something underneath our representations which we cannot fully understands that is real a...
I agree that is the end take out of all of this. A "thing in itself" is a logical consequence that should not be considered anymore than its base logi...
No, that would be stupid. The point I've been making through the thread is the separation of representation vs 'things in themselves'. We need somethi...
So then if we took a human, and they did the same thing as the crow without saying any words, we would think that wasn't rational thinking? How did th...
Its a thought experiment used to convey an underlying idea. You're making an innocent mistake of focusing too much on the specifics of the thought exp...
Because the authors were not talking about gloves with palms and backs. They were specifically providing examples of gloves that had no distinct indic...
There is a distance between a set point in itself, and another set point in itself. "Up" is an interpreted relation between our observation view point...
Yes, some animals can think rationally. It depends on how you define 'rationally' of course. If you define it as, 'the brain processing humans do', th...
This is about "Things in themselves" a concept which is easy to misunderstand. Let me see if I can do it justice. A "Thing in itself" is 'reality'. It...
I like your points except the need for religion. I believe at this point in life that religion is a mental construct we use to deal with things in lif...
Because capitalism adapted to serve people. 40 hour work weeks, paid time off, Osha, and fantastic government regulation make life pretty good and gen...
No, because Bob is constructing something important to them, an ethical theory. They are trying to get to the underlying logic of ethics, which is in ...
I am sorry you feel that way. I felt I understood it, but that doesn't mean I did. For what its worth, you have a good soul and I wish you the best go...
Unvarnished truth is better than couched and unclear communication. I took no offense. :) I also understand where you're coming from completely. Let m...
Thank you, I try. Taken in that limited context, is that really evil then? Preferably, we would like there to be infinite resources. Then there would ...
Ah, I see. First, let me tell you that I understand. Morality is arguably the underpinnings of everything we do. I can tell you right now, it is scary...
As of now, I'm not claiming that. All I've claimed at this point is that there is a fundamental logical truth to any objective morality. When presente...
It is fine to disagree. But I'm going to ask, "Is it better to have good states of reality or evil states of reality?" Can you escape the notion that ...
Morality is simply about evaluating what 'ought to be', so immorality would be its opposite or, evaluating "What not ought to be". Considering that we...
I had to think for a while whether I would continue this conversation or not. I think its been clear that I've been engaging with you fairly and tryin...
Sure, I've been mentioning in the discussion that yes, choice cannot involve action in particular circumstances like an opinion. But in your case of m...
I did not mean to state it as a fact, just a separate consideration before we jump onto the idea that we're only correlating. I appreciate it, I was u...
Oh, I need to amend that. It would be better as "A bodily state of a living being..." I described an action as above, then defined what an act was. An...
I genuinely don't understand how I was condescending. I think you read an intention into that I did not mean to convey. I'm going to assume you're not...
So is your heart beating an act of will then? Surely you see the clear difference that I'm noting between acts of will and autonomous acts correct? My...
I am glad to see an argument like this Sam. Keep approaching it from different angles. While of course the people responding to you think we're right ...
It would be helpful if you pointed out how its incoherent as I'm not seeing it. But its ok to move on. I honestly have no issue in separating the two ...
There is a past, present, and future tense to choice. I'm making a choice, I've made my choice, I've completed my choice. A choice can only be made wh...
No worry! This has been fun to sort through and try to give exact definitions. Its made me realize we use 'choice' very loosely in common language, an...
Right, continuing to watch is the action that you decide to do. Actions are from moment to moment. You pull the lever, or you continue to watch. Eithe...
Autonomous breathing is an action simpliciter. An action of agency is done with conscious intent. My point is that you cannot 'not make an action'. To...
Fantastic points Cerulea! Let me start towards the end of your points first. Correct, what I am discussing is not an assertion of strongly backed or p...
An action 'simpliciter' is simply what your being is at any moment in time. As I noted, you can have autonomous reactions. For example, breathing. An ...
Not a worry! As always this is a hobby where we squeeze in time, and I know we have a habit of making longer posts to one another. :) This is true. An...
Sounds pretty good. I've always taken that numbers are the logical expression of a living beings ability to discretely experience. Experience is the t...
I'm talking about the context of steal or starve, or mutually exclusive choices. It is though. Your action is to stay in the chair. An action is simpl...
This is a hard sell. In logic, to choose A, is to choose not B. If I were to grab A, it means I'm grabbing not B. To say that choice isn't an action s...
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