You would be surprised. Just because someone claims a particular trans right is a human right, doesn't mean that trans right is even a right, much les...
Right, no harm in your words. Yes, I think the matter of whether we should consider human rights at all is a bit off topic. The thread is more focused...
They are a social construct solved through reason and practice, not bias or feelings. Whether you value human rights or not, there are clearly defined...
And I'm glad to to hear that. I agree that trans gender people should have the right to not be harmed for the way they live their lives, and that we s...
Ah, I see what you're saying now. If you'll notice in the OP I take the time to set up all the definitions so that way the reader knows what everythin...
Fair enough, I'll believe that you have. But I'm not seeing you provide anything that is countering my criticism either. And I have invited you to go ...
I don't see how this addresses the OP or gets the topic back on track. I fail to see how these statements you've made have anything to do with what I'...
No, the title, intro, and common saying is 'Trans rights are human rights". Its a a common refrain from trans allies and activists. Here, I even wrote...
Technically its about human rights, but you are 100% correct that this is off topic. The OP addresses health care as So RougeAI, lets stick to the OP ...
My apologies for getting back late to you on this. I am curious about your view points on another thread I started analyzing which trans gender rights...
I appreciate you sharing the story. The OP goes through several of them and states whether they can be classified as human rights. Would you like to a...
A human right is not a legal right. But our legal rights should support human rights. The purpose of the OP is to ascertain whether the rights that th...
This is an example of a thought experiment to give a more explicit example out an abstract notion. If you're not going to take the conversation seriou...
Lets pull it out of the abstract and look at your own life. Lets say you stumble upon a person in a lone allyway. They mean you no harm but you notice...
Correct. I addressed the idea of medical care as a right in the OP. For this we can detail further. There are two situations in which a person can dec...
Then my mistake, I'll try to be more clear next time. .. Generally punishment as an ideal's purpose is to protect innocent people and reform those who...
Agreed, no argument against that here. Perhaps others see trans individuals as freaks, from my point its looking at what they are asking for as rights...
Fair question. I posted a link in the OP, and TClark posted a link to generally what the transgender community is asking for in terms of rights. I am ...
If the rights they are asking for fit in and do not contradict human rights, then yes, they are. But in the OP its clear that some of the things being...
You may very well come from an enlightened family where such questions are common. In many families such questions are off limits, yelled at, and disc...
Outlander I'm not seeing this as relevant to the OP. I appreciate your contribution, but unless it ties into the OP in some way, this is off topic. Of...
I didn't think the site I referenced was claptrap. That being said, I asked for and welcome alternatives. We can discuss nicely. Beyond transgender pa...
A little bit of a dive into history can show this. In many totalitarian societies on is not allowed to question the effectiveness of their government....
Correct. What I'm espousing is the definition of gender according to modern day gender theory as I understand it. It is fine to disagree with it. This...
There are some, but last I looked we truly don't know the full picture. Do we know that sexual orientation is biological? I believe there is more than...
No, I'm not implying they are cleanly discernible through observation. I think they require scientific reference to clearly delineate what is biologic...
I believe testosterone, sex hormones, and brain structure. This aggression is also focused in certain areas like mate seeking and physical altercation...
This is what gender ideology believes. In any modern day conversation about gender and regarding 'trans gender', the definition of sex and gender as w...
You cannot persuade a single person to come to a conclusion they do not want to. What you can provide them is an opportunity to come to a conclusion t...
Hello again Bob! An interesting take on the gender/sex division issue. I'll analyze it the best I can. Correct. Just adding that the key difference is...
To my point earlier, sometimes you encounter incredibly difficult questions with no apparent answers. That's pressure to stop thinking about it. The p...
And this is a correct philosophical response. One should always feel free to ask 'Why?" and point out problems with assumptions. Perhaps there are goo...
According to the definition of gender, that's all it really is. Its simply culturally accepted prejudice and/or sexism. Also correct. Because the poin...
According to many on the gender side of the discussion, it is correct that there is no boundary line under which gender can be captured. Keep going wi...
Agreed. I view gender as socially enforced/acceptable prejudice and sexism. Agreed. I mentioned to another poster here that the game is to get you to ...
You as well Bob! I hope life has been treating you well. True. But having been in the community for a while and seeing their desire to cleave it, I'm ...
Darkneos, your question has been asked countless times over the years. "Will the calculator make people dumber?" "You can replace 10 accountants with ...
And I have never denied that. The argument has been noting that the issue is that the phrase 'trans men are men' implies 'man as sex' and is both gram...
There is only one thing that matter in philosophy: The argument. Not who said it. Not credentials. Not the feelings of the person. The argument. If AI...
That's not what I said. I said that the idea that because language can evolve a certain way, doesn't mean it should. If English evolved rapidly into a...
No, it is not foolish at all. That's the entire point of English class. Present participles, conjuctive disjunctions (What are you functions?) are all...
The issue is that man is used both to indicate sex and gender depending on context. In this context its more grammatically sensible to read man as ref...
Notice I did not explicitly say "to get people to hold the door for me". If you're being honest when you see a woman vs a man, you do have a different...
To be clear, I have nothing against man meaning gender or man meaning sex based on context. My argument is that in the context of 'transgender men are...
Correct. I sympathize with this greatly. Does using poor language structures in phrasing fix this? No. It depends. One of the things that people have ...
This 'is' a statement that the transgender community insists is true, so I think its a viable thing to look at linguistically. Technically you had to ...
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