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And your evidence/argument for these assertions is... ? And obviously there is middle ground between knowledge and "blind guessing". You should also c...

:up: sort of the fundamental flaw common to all these arguments- a conclusion in search of premises, rather than the other way around.

I'd say less that burden of proof doesn't apply, and more that it may take different forms depending on the nature of the claim in question. So certai...

Yep. That's how burden of proof works in most contexts, though there are obviously some exceptions where burden of proof is stipulated to rest on one ...

You know perfectly well what I'm asking for examples of- examples of what we've been talking about for this entire exchange, of course. And I'm trying...

No offense taken, but I'm genuinely confused how you got the impression I was talking about burden of proof or the claim that there are no gods. I was...

so... examples? Elaboration? No? Maybe you're not even sure what you meant by that claim yourself?

while there are other sorts of modality (so, nomological modality- pertaining to physical laws of nature, epistemic modality, and so on) and there alm...

not sure which quote you're referring to (Hume or 180 Proof), but yes, that's the gist of it- facts are contingent, existence claims are claims of fac...

Right, and so I'm asking you to give examples and to elaborate on that point- why the coyness? If you don't exist, but you don't not exist either, the...

so... Santa Claus? Bigfoot? Various deities? Poltergeists? What other entities are admitted to the class of objects that both exist and don't exist (o...

:up: Well-stated; I quite like this. A necessary existent or fact (i.e. a being who exists necessarily- whose existence is a "necessary fact") is lite...

honestly if anything you have been overgenerous to a poster who gives every indication of being a garden variety troll. I mean, he's now doing the "I-...

you have anything to say RE the Susskind video you linked? So about "fine-tuning" (for life, not consciousness) or anthropic reasoning? No? Only inter...

its another lazy strawman OP, but sure.

I didn't ever say (or even imply) that you said that you could "prove" the existence of God. I said what you have now confirmed you said- that you bel...

not surprising, given the poster's other contributions, that the OP has almost nothing whatsoever to do with the Susskind video the OP themselves have...

that was my initial takeaway as well (i.e. something like, "I can only exist if God does, and I do exist, therefore God exists"- so something like pre...

I can't decide if I'm being trolled or not. You said: "My evidence for the existence of God is my existence". I interpreted this to mean that you beli...

Theism = the position/belief that God exists. So, yeah, that's what you said. And that wasn't the part that was a problem, obviously.

Hmmm... Punshhh exists, therefore theism. Well I guess that settles it then, I mean who could argue with that?

I would imagine you can find a good deal of information on the transition from Aristotelian mechanics to classical mechanics free on the internet with...

The Thomist formulations of these arguments are certainly bound up in outdated and problematic mechanics/(meta)-physics (and its not just Thomas' take...

I voted "with philosophy", since the sort of (philosophical) analysis provided by e.g. 180 Proof reveals it to be an ill-posed question that more or l...

You're not even trying at this point. If X can only be regarded as evidence for something if you engage in open fallacy, then X isn't meaningful or su...

Nope, but nice try. The point is that the evidence for theism is woefully lacking- and your comment that the best evidence for theism is ... not actua...

Tell that to Craig. I also recall seeing a survey where a plurality of theists listed "evidence of design in nature" as the top reason why they believ...

:up: :strong: :cool:

The problem here is that it wasn't relevant and so was a change of topic. If I wanted to defend or talk about materialism, I would find a thread about...

Because the proponents of these arguments (at least some of them, like Craig) make quite strong claims about them, like that they are both sound and p...

You're apparently conflating scientific evidence- constrained by naturalism as a methodological principle- with empirical evidence more broadly. Empir...

Sure. And hopefully it goes without saying that even spirited disagreement (shall we say) doesn't imply any personal animus (but I'll go ahead and say...

Again, we're talking quite explicitly about arguments for the existence of God. You know, the causal/cosmological, ontological, teleological, etc argu...

I mean allegedly. Reportedly. I'm not sure how else to put it. They have academic credentials that should prevent the sorts of errors that infest thes...

It was intended to be... but it turned out it wasn't. And hence my comment about it being unintentional. But you not only effectively conceded the poi...

Agreed. Which is why someone like Aquinas had a good deal more sense than his modern counterparts- e.g. William Lane Craig, Edward Feser, Alvin Planti...

I wasn't saying that it was unintentional that you made a good point- I don't doubt you're perfectly capable of making good points and do so quite fre...

(so say what you will about the fideists, at least they're honest with themselves on this count)

Agreed. It seems pretty clear that on the whole, the available evidence (the problem of evil, miracles, other scriptural truth-claims, etc) is far mor...

No, not out of hand. The only things that can be dismissed out of hand are trivialities- i.e. logical falsehoods, self-contradictions. But evidence fo...

I stated on what basis I did so, and I stand by it. And some of the best minds in history have presented arguments for theism that are, without except...

If only this were true, eh? Unfortunately, utterly lacking in evidence as it is (and the arguments for God's existence being, without exception, eithe...

You can't have it both ways. Either its a realistic standard, such that its lack is a problem and therefore a meaningful objection... or its not. I th...

its not even an opinion, its just a blatantly/trivially false factual claim.What poor NOS here is claiming political correctness has nothing to do wit...

(that's good - but then a lack of certainty ceases to be a meaningful objection)

Nah. Its literally what the phrase means in English. As you can see if you check any dictionary or encyclopedia entry. And of course, the anti-PC dips...

Um, no. The existence of black holes was deduced as a theoretical consequence of the theory of relativity- as a valid solution to the relativistic fie...

Lol. As per usual, the literal exact opposite of what you just said is the case. Political correctness is, in both definition and in practice, almost ...

Exactly. Its not about changing the minds of committed white supremacists- that's going to be an exercise in futility in the vast majority of cases. D...

Have you stopped beating your wife? C'mon, I'm not answering such an obviously loaded question (which, so far as the philosophic topic is concerned, i...