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In fact, to move from subjectivity to objectivity, one needs more subjects, adding and comparing their observations, So in a sense you get to objectiv...

Yes, and I think he did so on purpose, in order to confuse the simple minded.

I see another (additional) dimension, or possibility opened by the burning of the book. Of course the act of burning a book is sacrilegious or at the ...

Yes, our capacity to hold on or assess logical inferences evolved, but unlike other things that evolved, it seems to touch on universals. For instance...

An even better gem: let’s obsess and argue over qualia for dozens of pages and several threads to show how totally useless that concept is...

And that is an excellent philosophical joke for the (cartesian) logical impossibility of doubting the doubter...

That’s about as funny a joke one can make about Kant. The irony is that Stove remembered Kant’s answer to his own noumena-phenomena question so well t...

Do you think this joker, David Stove, ever heard of the noumena-phenomena distinction in Kant?

Go suck grizzlies all you like, but let other people live.

If you do that in a city you might kill someone, so it’s forbidden. Likewise you are more than welcome to not wear a mask when you’re alone in the wil...

How could we ever know that? It is the way the world is for us.

:up:

Yes, it’s an a priori, in the sense of ‘intuitively necessary yet unproven’.

IMO, the question is moot (rather than incoherent) and thus ontology is moot. The shapes that matter takes is what is accessible and important to us, ...

In other words, it's form all the way down and thus there is no ontological separation between information and matter, because there’s no such thing a...

I would say subjective experience. It helps show that objectivity stems from subjectivity, rather than be the opposite of it.

Semantics. Well then your rhetoric is misdirected, because I never ever said subjectivity was a flaw. Why are you so pissed all the time? You can’t ta...

Or vice versa, in the sense that the body without the mind becomes vegetative.

( emph added) It’s not someone... it’s everyone.

Still, we don’t know what matter is. We only know the forms it takes.

Another thing is, i’ve had the same weight plus or minus a kg for the past 20 years. It’s not like I weight nothing, nor that sometimes I weight three...

I think of logic as an a priori. So it’s either a part of our operating system, or a world with its own rules that we tap into. I tend to lean for the...

That’s what they taught me in school.

Because I’m evidently made of matter. If you know what matter is, kindly share.

I hope no octopus was hurt while shooting this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYO1-gGWJyo

I am an island underneath the setting sun In an ocean that is churning For all I know there might be nobody nearby Still, the world, it keeps on turni...

That’s fine but then there will be tariffs to enter the common market.

Interesting, didactic, nicely put. As an aside, in Popper’s three worlds theory, world 1 is the physical world, world 2 is the subjective world of ind...

Fair. But ontology is elusive. We don’t really know what matter ‘is’, for instance. Personally I try to stay away from it. (ontology I mean, not matte...

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You presented or assumed subjectivity as flawed. I’m trying to show you that this is not the case. Subjectivity is the bedrock of scientific objectivi...

Yes, this idea that human subjectivity is the cradle or bedrock of scientific objectivity — this idea may be to philosophical zombies what garlic is t...

I was not even talking of qualia. I was just explaining to Isaac that his cherished objectivity stems from subjectivity, rather than being the opposit...

I have excellent, fruitful conversations with non-zombies though. It’s only with the zombies that it’s over so fast. They run away from me I guess...

Actually there is a lot of nothing, so it’s not either/or.

LOL. Did I hit a nerve?

That is incorrect. I can say all sorts of things about my experience which are at a variance or additional to my memory of said experience. It’s calle...

Didn’t know that, thanks. True that form cannot exist without matter and vice versa. Still it is a duality of sorts, like the two sides of the same co...

Some are smarter than others I’m sure, but the argument has nothing to do with the alleged stupidity of neurologists. It’s about a blind spot. I don’t...

In fact Bitbol starts with the physicalist concept of blind spot. Each of our eyes has one, corresponding to where the optic nerve starts, and yet we ...

I suspect you are trying to understand subjectivity in general, which would include your own subjectivity doing the trying. Or are you trying to under...

He may feel like chasing after the indelicate customer.

If you can run very fast, yes.

Romans see it as rude to conduct any commercial transaction without a little chatter, a little joke, a bit of push and shove. They see commerce as a n...

I’m unconvinced by: Emphasis added. You also need to understand that he wants money in exchange of the apples. So you need to understand his (subjecti...

Unless he’s got no apple, or several different types of apples, in which case he will tell you and I trust you may listen to his opinion and his to yo...

No, because what you remember of an experience is yet another form of experience. Therefore experience still precedes any report, and can never be ful...

According to Bitbol, this effect is used in Dennett’s Quining Qualia to introduce confusion in his reader’s mind. Dennett does so by asking his reader...

I think the point that my experience and thoughts are initially private, and that I may decide to share them, and always can share a part and not the ...

I think this is quite perceptive. It introduces a seeming contradiction: to understand itself from the outside, as an object, consciousness must turn ...