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And I think that's ridiculous, as an absolute statement. I think sometimes it may be "guessing ridiculously" (whatever the threshold for that is), and...
January 26, 2021 at 10:56
Depending on the circumstances, there may be cases where stealing a horse would be the right thing to do. But that's not what the tale means. It means...
January 26, 2021 at 08:58
In other words, how many spectators must there be in the Colosseum before their harm reduction from watching someone get mauled by a lion justifies ha...
January 26, 2021 at 08:31
The same critique does apply to negative utilitarianism. There's no universal metric to measure harm, and therefore one cannot actually compute harms....
January 26, 2021 at 07:59
That's quite the understatement you got there. Life is unmitigated, absolute HELL. That's what it is. I can't wait for it to stop, personally.
January 26, 2021 at 07:36
That is not true. It was not your position yesterday at least, which was that only harm should be accounted because your only moral imperative is to r...
January 26, 2021 at 07:11
Okay so accounting for future harm of hypothetical generations is something you can do but not accounting for their future joy, for some mysterious re...
January 25, 2021 at 22:41
And yet you would want Adam and Eve to have killed all the joys ever to be had by the whole human race.
January 25, 2021 at 20:59
We make duties about not decreasing other people's joy though. It's not okay to be a killjoy.
January 25, 2021 at 19:44
More harm, but also more joy. Why are you not counting the joys that life brings? If your only measure for life is the amount of tears shed, of course...
January 25, 2021 at 18:16
And I have pointed out that living, at least in society, involves taking chances with other people's lives. By that I don't mean that it's okay to be ...
January 25, 2021 at 18:01
Well, this being the AN argument, my argument is that life is far more important than a mere accounting of harm and joy, and that its complexity is be...
January 25, 2021 at 17:03
You have less harmful alternatives than driving a car: you could go shopping by foot or bicycle; you could order your groceries on the internet; heck,...
January 25, 2021 at 16:16
Key word: probably. What justifies taking the risk? How do you know what consequences you acts will have? You make a probability calculation? If you c...
January 25, 2021 at 14:19
That's not a fact. You don't know for sure when you take the wheel to go do some shopping, that you will not kill a dozen people in some horrible acci...
January 25, 2021 at 12:33
And yet we take decisions that affect the life of others all the time. You do it when you drive a car, you do it when you wear a mask in public (or no...
January 25, 2021 at 09:45
If you don't find my posts of value, simply don't respond to them. Simplify your life. The reason I'm insisting is I don't think very highly of your i...
January 25, 2021 at 09:15
Think about this a little bit more: just because life was bearable to you until now, it doesn't follow that it will stay that way. All the risks that ...
January 25, 2021 at 08:17
If life could be full of harms, and if that risk justifies not giving life to a child, why should the lives of AN be an exception? Why should they opt...
January 25, 2021 at 08:00
Because they think that life is full of harm, that's why. They think it is better for a child not to be, and therefore, if they were presented with th...
January 25, 2021 at 07:40
AN should be big suicide fans, in theory, but there's some unpleasantness about it. So let's remove the unpleasantness in this thought experiment: One...
January 25, 2021 at 07:20
I hear you, but some decisions cannot realy be taken based on facts or argument. They require a leap of faith.
January 24, 2021 at 11:36
Even people who have kids rarely see anything wrong in not having kids. I believe that people who willingly try to not have kids do it for a reason. I...
January 24, 2021 at 08:31
I find this a rather sad view of the universe, and boring too. A more interesting approach in my view is to understand the function of suffering, as a...
January 24, 2021 at 08:14
Don’t we all do that once in a while? Makes for fun discussions... :-)
January 24, 2021 at 08:07
Ha ha. Sanders doesn’t give a shit about his own look. Good for him. We need more people like him in position of influence.
January 24, 2021 at 07:57
Well, in my experience, all it takes is meeting a girl who wants kids, and who likes you enough that she wants them with you. That’s the power of natu...
January 23, 2021 at 08:40
Yes, Isaac put it forth well. Is having children more that a theoretical possibility for you, Khaled?
January 23, 2021 at 08:26
There’s no such thing as a harmless alternative, though.
January 23, 2021 at 08:21
Why of course, it’s not your decision to make. I trust that the AN are not trying to stop other people from conceiving children, and that they are jus...
January 23, 2021 at 08:18
The odds are good enough.
January 23, 2021 at 08:08
There's no such thing as European philosophy, or African philosophy. This sloppy language is a form of essentialism, an internalisation of racism by p...
January 22, 2021 at 20:07
As I was singing "BORN IN THE USAAAAAAA" at the top of my lungs in the apartment, my wife kindly reminded me that I was born in Toulouse. So here is a...
January 22, 2021 at 19:07
Billy He's down by the railroad track Sitting low in the back seat Of his Cadillac Diamond Jackie She's so intact And she falls so softly beneath him ...
January 22, 2021 at 15:17
In order to make a human embryo grow blind, you have to destroy something. At a minimum you have to take a huge number of genes and delete them from s...
January 22, 2021 at 14:40
I will get it wrong no doubt.
January 22, 2021 at 14:36
Why is that such a bad situation, may I ask?
January 22, 2021 at 14:25
Because it is destroying a major part of why life is worth living, of the beauty of life, for strictly no reason.
January 22, 2021 at 14:23
The fact is that nobody was technically 'put' in such position, because to exist is to be in that position, and no one even existed before they were i...
January 22, 2021 at 14:15
Not that I can see. That's an incorrect conception of conception.
January 22, 2021 at 14:13
Life is often better than the alternative. That's my point and it is indeed a very simple point.
January 22, 2021 at 14:12
That's a big assumption you're making here. You've seen that movie? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0HDHA
January 22, 2021 at 14:10
The comparison is not correct because the someone in question does not exist before conception. Parents give life to their children, their force no on...
January 22, 2021 at 14:02
It follows that they see their own life as inherently good and good to hold on too, like many other people do. And the children of the once antinatali...
January 22, 2021 at 13:43
My comment was more general than that: if life becomes unbearable, there's always the suicide option. This is true for antinatalists themselves. Of co...
January 22, 2021 at 12:21
Not very deep, but it feels so good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZqu8ojifhU
January 22, 2021 at 10:49
If and when life becomes a curse, there's a very simple and radical solution to it: death.
January 22, 2021 at 07:26
Go easy on us. We've heard only primal screams coming out of the White House for the past four years... That may be too long a list of rational, creat...
January 21, 2021 at 11:02
You mean it was a collective effort? You bet. America had to pull it back together. The choice was between democracy, however imperfect, and neofascis...
January 21, 2021 at 10:49
A lot of folks have showed up and stumbled, though. It’s quite facile and shallow now to say that it was a shoe-in, after he won, or that this or that...
January 21, 2021 at 08:00