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Of course, although they are welcome to surrender and seem to be well treated when they do. I doubt the Ukrainians are killing the Russians with joy.

I'm not too sure what you're trying to say here. Were you using some automatic translation? These often need to be carefully edited.

He's trying, at least.

BS. It would be a win for mankind.

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Kill enough Russians, I suppose. How do you think Russia is going to win this war? No, this has already been seen. It's a fact. They do exist, you kno...

You don't understand what's happening if you focus too much on Zelensky. Presidents don't fight wars. Armies don't win wars. Nations win and lose wars...

Cretins whining about social media. What else is new?

But but but he should not have winked, you see? That was one wink too many! Now the whole universe is about to collapse, perhaps. Thank God Putin is a...

They always screw up their act in the end... :roll:

Steep learning curve...

He must know a lot more. I just checked and it was not decided under Zelensky's presidency. He became president on 20 May 2019 while the constitution ...

Yes, they could have been a bit quieter about it, and not put it in the constitution. But whether that would have changed anything re. the war is impo...

Right. The error might have been to put the aspiration to membership in the constitution, perhaps hastingly. It's not technically what a constitution ...

Point well taken, I was not aware of that. Note that it happened after the first Russian invasion though. That a country being invaded would seek alli...

As already mentioned:

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Yep. The only thing I'm still unclear about is how the 9/11 hoax and pizzagate fit in all this.

And what's really interesting is that the MOSSAD is not saying a thing... What are they hidding?

That's an odd belief, that one cannot love a mad person. My sister-in-law is turning mad. She is a very nice person, mother of two, hard working, funn...

That sounds so crazy that it must be true. And as we all know, Josef Mengele was an American of Ukrainian origins, who never read Tolstoï. That should...

As we can see in Ukraine right now... The Americans are bombing a lot of cities there, you know? I mean, provoking such bombing, I think... or wait, p...

Exactly. It's by the fault of the French that Americans and Brits had to kill so many Iraqis, including them kids. Because you see, the French tried t...

That critique pertains to the Bush administration, right? Or Clinton? Because Georgia and Ukraine are not in NATO and there are no current efforts to ...

I blame the Iraq war on the French, who lacked the moral ingenuity to shoot first and think later... The French were absolutely disgusting in their de...

I wanted those you mentioned, but now you decided to quote some other random guys... I happen to know Jeffrey Sachs. He's a nice guy but never found a...

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Quote them, then, if you think it can help your argument. Name dropping ain't enough, for your words are worth little.

It was the issue I raised, in response to constant complaints about my so-called disgusting 'war cheerleading'. I wanted to know what was worse: 'chee...

Start a thread, or even better, read this one. It's all been described. None of it implies a provocation from Washington. You misunderstood me again: ...

There was no provocation that I can see. So no, i don't agree. It's all on Putin. The vast majority of your posts have been devoted to whining about h...

Bombing cities lead -- I think -- to more deaths than cheerleading, so by your own yardstick it is morally far more disgusting to bomb civilians than ...

You need more help than you can offer.

I understood from what he wrote that cheerleading a Ukrainian is morally worse than killing a Ukrainian. If he meant something else, he is welcome to ...

I don't see how moral questions can be considered trivial or stupid questions on a philosophy forum. They are important, perhaps not politically but h...

You think I am stupid, Benkei?

Good point. If the nation being attacked is led by a brutal dictatorship, it might not be the right thing to do to help this dictatorship defend itsel...

Err... The unicorn?

What? Unclear, kindly rephrase. My position, so you remember what we are discussing, is: I can't figure out any circumstances where helping a nation d...

Okay so you are not quite sure yet if Putin is morally superior to the EU and US in the circumstances, and lean to moral equivalence between them. Kin...

Unclear, please rephrase.

It was not Saddam's war, it was Bush's war, remember? And if Iraq had been a democracy, as Ukraine is, if Saddam really embodied his nation's will, as...

Okay, so Putin is morally superior -- in these circumstances in Ukraine -- to the EU and US, then, according to @"boethius" and you. Kindly confirm.

You've read and agreed with it? Maybe you can explain to others here what the argument was? Because I cannot think of any evidence for the statement: ...

I just can't figure out any circumstances where helping a nation defend herself against aggression would be morally worse than said aggression. If you...

That's correct. You are confusing your own bad faith with sophistication.

It is easy to write a lot of meaningless text. Don't lie, Isaac. Just don't. You can live without it, trust me.

The Russians reported almost 10,000 soldiers deaths and 16,000 maimed yesterday, and then they pulled out the report. So after less than a month, this...

Let @"boethius" answer that, since after all it's his assumption, and a disgusting one at that.

It's exactly as you said: we should be disgusted by anyone except by the actual professional killers.