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Hey Paul, nobody here will stop you if you do undertake to liberate Thailand. So go right ahead. I have to get busy liberating Washington DC myself. A...

Right, so it plays the same role in your metaphysics than Saussure and structuralism in mine: a useful language to express systemic relations within a...

There’s always a “humunculus”. The hypothesis cannot be avoided. Homunculi R us.

Good one. I mean, i checked the corresponding wiki entry but fail to see the relevance to system thinking. It’s some kind of proto linguistic...

Going deeper in our examination, is the pain in creativesoul’s behind ineffable?

Yes yes, all well known and familiar. Piercian semiotics got me googling though. If you can explain in a few words, it’d be appreciated.

Yes, or a signal standing out from the noise.

Okay, so very different from phenomenology’s primacy of perception. I got confused.

Information and form in the Aristotelian sense can be seen as broadly synonymous. Comes from latin informare: give form to, and also educate (metaphor...

Just attempting to think coherently and to express myself clearly. You should try it one day. We'd miss your mind farts though.

You’ve been talking about them qualia for weeks. FYI.

Indeed, the important point is that panpsychism is a (at least) 2000 yr old mythology. Doesn’t make it false but it cannot claim to be original thinki...

How would you define this?

[ A psychism limited to certain life forms.

At the begining was the word, and the word was with God. John 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LOFXwPwC4

The structure is everything. There's a very large difference between a car and a pile of parts. It will cost you time, skills and money to change the ...

About truth, I think... Come waste your millions here Secretly she sneers Another corporate show A guilty conscience grows And I'll feel a guilty cons...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwAd_ag9Q0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNqnVgEs9M

"The subjective experience of thinking" is required for any of your thoughts to have any meaning for and to other subjective beings, such as other pos...

You do it again! Thoughts cannot undermine thoughts. Thoughts are "poetry" you say? That is not even beautiful poetry... Logic makes for boringly pred...

The structure is additional.

So that's the important difference? That means it applies to anything alive? Eg like plants too are tenacious and stubborn in their own way?

But you will never know everything there is to know about anything, so this is a false, unrealistic premise. What is important is that the components ...

No, I mean you could not figure out what this molecular machine does, based on knowing its components only, not anymore than you could predict what a ...

If you want to think about thoughts, and speak about them, you have to realize that anything you say about thoughts can apply reflexively, to itself, ...

No apology is needed when you shoot yourself in the foot.

Consciousness may be necessary for our function, and yet totally different from temperature in that it may require an actual dedicated mechanism, an o...

This sentence is simply not true: combination of things adds information that was not present in the things being combined. No knowledge of atoms will...

Based on what? Your ignorance or your knowledge? If knowledge, of what? What is there objectively or logically, that makes it impossible for new combi...

Yes, there is an implicit intentionality in all life: the will to survive etc. which is not unlike the multilayered intentionality of any conscious th...

Did it ever occur to you that they may be perfectly rational explanations unknown to you in both the cases of the rabbit and consciousness? So you thi...

As usual, I am using the reflexivity of thought against thought deniers. The denial of thoughts is itself a thought. It applies to Fury calling though...

"Magic" on this forum tends to be used instead of "mysterious", including here. When anyone on TPF fails to understand something, he declares it "magi...

Maybe because you're not brain shivering hard enough.

Right. And this may mean that the emergence of life happened first, as a prerequisite for the emergence of consciousness among certain living species....

Is there a clear difference between literal brain shivers and figurative ones, and if yes, what could it be?

The basic issue with panpsychism is its ignorance of life as a prerequisite for any psychism. Dead people don't talk much. There must be a reason for ...

On the OP, a serious while funny book is The Curious Enlightenement of Professor Caritat, by Steven Lukes. He concludes that any system of governance ...

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Still, a view logically implies a point of view. There are of course things that nobody views, but there is no view from nowhere.

Thanks. A bit of background: In 1969 the young singer-song writers Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil arrived in London, expelled from military-ruled Bra...

I Think Therefore I'm Reduced What is the Worst Utopia Possible?

Good suggestions, but those only describe the current intent of the tread. I suppose the idea is that retitling could help relaunch the thread in new ...

Yes. They say "function shapes the organ". If you want the same cognitive performance as a conscious human being, you will need some form of self awar...

Saw that too. It's only the second time they change that thread title. What's next? "Not Understanding Quining Qualia"? "How to Use Quining Qualia as ...

please rephrase, I don't get it.

I do. If p-zombies could exist -- I.e. if we could live the exact same lives without consciousness -- then we wouldn't have any consciousness at all. ...

I agree it's important to see consciousness as functional, and contend that consciousness is necessary for the integration of various information 'fee...