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Right. I think we both want that. I see human cognition as animal, however complex. I've been watching some great nature documentaries, complex mating...

The creature you mentioned. I'm trying to avoid mentalistic language, basically. A sign is related or correlated to a response. Can we explore this wi...

Ah, but if a computer did ask such a question, I suspect that somehow it wouldn't count. I could easily write a program to do so. Here's one in Python...

I agree that the task is complex. But note that you are pasting on lots of mentalistic talk. If the android picks up the chips as requested, we'd say ...

That's one of the assumptions that I am questioning. The mentalistic language is familiar to us. We imagine that understanding is something that happe...

Indeed, it's almost a religious idea. What does it mean to be an agent? It's important to me also, to all of us. The idea that we as humans are radica...

I don't think this is focused on the real issue. If AI has a body, then it could learn to react to 'get some chips' by getting some chips. People are ...

Note that I asked a question, that point of which was to say that ....hey, maybe we are taking our own autonomy for granted. Maybe we have familiar lo...

Actually it's John Searle. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/ 'Mental or semantic' contents are problematic. They are more or less 'conc...

What I'm getting at is that autonomy is a vague notion, an ideal. We have certain ways of treating one another, and we have a lingo of autonomy, respo...

As I understand it, we can never get outside of our blind skill and finally say what 'I know' means. We can and sometimes do use this blind skill to i...

'I think therefore I am.' What is this 'I'? A computer can learn this grammar, just as humans do, by learning from examples. If there is something mor...

Perhaps. But have we ever seen a human being with more than just nominal autonomy?

Assuming that you are right, what makes us so sure as humans that we do ? To me it's not at all about AI mysticism. It's instead about demystifying hu...

Right. So the issue for me is: how is this connection manifested? I think (?) you'll agree that they act differently. Clouds affect the probability th...

I think I agree with your approach here. I used to think that 'it's all just switches.' In some sense I still think that. What's changed is the stuff ...

I do love the word 'care.' That is some strong English. We feel that word.

I haven't read every page of Being and Time. I have studied some of his other books completely, especially the lectures leading up to B&T, like the ea...

To be sure, we have two words for a reason. Philosophy is not poetry in the everyday sense of the terms. I wouldn't even say that philosophy is 'reall...

I enjoy your anti-philosophical posts, but to push the game along: If you were to justify your origin story for science, would you do so by appealing ...

This makes sense to me. Then, even on a personal level, a non-expert (maybe a professional musician) can take a general stance toward science, such as...

I think so. I guess the challenge of complex conversation is getting a rough sense of how others are using their terms, which involves getting a rough...

OK, I can work with this. A human on an island alone can learn new tricks, develop new private routines. With language we have public routines that yo...

Right. The definition focuses on noises and marks used conventionally, but clearly gestures and facial expressions are hugely important, as is practic...

I guess I'm trying to figure out how you think of correlations. If I 'warn you about the flooded bridge' by making sounds...and you turn your car arou...

Since this thread has been abandoned by the OP, I'll just refer you to some of my other posts. Perhaps you can jump in on some of those other threads....

Yup, and this is a great example of what I mean by thrownness. We just grow up using 'I' in a certain way that we don't think to question till much la...

Sorry, I should have responded to that. It's good stuff. Yes, excellent stuff. Basically the ironic aphorist is (for me) close to the absurd hero. I'm...

Thanks. That's helpful. Yes, I like that. I do think that we can't genuinely doubt everything. Some beliefs are too basic in our culture, in our ident...

Perhaps I've misunderstood you. Help me see where I have gone wrong. It does help to know that you also reject the mental/physical distinction. How do...

It's not a bad philosophy of life, but do you not see how individual personality is manifested in the admonishment to not be cynical? Philosophy has o...

Or the impossibility of such a method. The method of philosophy is like the ice of fire. It you want to call foundational abnormal discourse something...

What I question here is this assumed 'clean' separation of thought from the metaphor and irony that otherwise taints it. I think humans creatively ada...

Ah, but that's just the idea I'm challenging! Meeting you half-way, I'd say that marks and noises become 'meaningful' as they are caught up in social ...

I agree that such a thing is suggested. That's how we tend to interpret the situation. But correlations are beetles in the box, explanatory hypothetic...

I think you miss the point of 'ironic' in ironic aphorist. As one becomes intensely critically minded, one invariably turns this criticism back on its...

Thanks!

Note how the ironic philosopher is interpreted as making excuses. That's the kind of folk-psychology I associate with 'sophistry.' We would like to in...

The idea that language is a medium is something I'm trying to put in question (following and paraphrasing my influences.) Is riding a bike with no han...

This is what I was getting at with 'divine spark.' Feuerbach was a humanist, materialist, etc., but also influenced by Hegel. He's a strange brew, but...

The idea I am playing with at the moment is very much in that direction. If belief is enacted, then 'language acquisition' is just further training in...

I'm not claiming that it is. In some ways I'm saying the opposite. But the bigger picture is putting the whole mental-versus-physical distinction on p...

I see why you would say that, but I also think that the stuff we take for granted that is most constraining is the stuff we didn't know that we believ...

Sorry, it was another risky metaphor that didn't work out. What I'm getting at is our human attachment to seeing ourselves as radically distinct from ...

Yes, indeed. I'm glad to be on this page with you. This to me is why literature and philosophy are inseparable. Narratives are a basic to human cognit...

I understand your concern. I don't like the level of public discourse either. I'm just saying that even decent discourse (the kind we like) is not 'pu...

I think we're talking about some good stuff, and I want to articulate my position so that you can see that it's not about correctness for me. There is...

I think we take that gulf too much for granted. That gulf seems to depend on opposing some 'conscious' 'mental-stuff' to simple bodily movement. We in...

Well 'sophistry' is a token in our mostly automatic language games, so I won't pretend to dominate it by fiat from the outside, as we philosophers ten...

Well I guess I agree that we can't doubt the doubter in some sense. But why can we doubt the world if we can't doubt the doubter? What can doubt mean ...