I don't know very much about IIT, though what little I do know of it didn't lead me to think it promoted panpsychism. As you say, I believe the theory...
An interesting perspective on this is to consider if we return to the wild land currently under crops (to feed animals) or used to farm cattle and she...
Historical facts about the world explain why the world is how it is but don't tell us what acts are moral or immoral. That decision requires thought, ...
I think I can see what you are getting at, though it seems a bit circular. Consciousness is the state of being aware, you seem to be saying, but do yo...
The point I am making is that it isn't justified to you but it is to a great many other people. The only way to change the other people is to prosecut...
In respect to an individual's moral beliefs and choices, yes, that's pretty much true. But at a broader level I think it's much more complex than that...
Well, that's more or less my point. I am saying the cow does not have an express interest in living. When I speak about a "biological" disposition, I ...
As I think about it, the concept of qualia stands for the phenomenal character of experience, whether we are talking mental objects or their propertie...
Ethical vegans claim that the interests of other animals should be afforded the same weight of consideration as those of humans, which is fine. But th...
I hope not to derail the more serious discussion in this thread, but I did want to respond to a couple of earlier comments. I think I am not clear on ...
I haven't heard of Sean Carroll, but that sounds like an interesting video, so thanks for the share, QuixoticAgnostic. I have only the most basic gras...
I like this, it's more my own stance on vegan ethics. I find it hard to adopt the view that all animals are accorded the same ethical duty, largely du...
I think it's more than simple ambiguity. I think it's a sort of fundamental misinterpretation. I should emphasise again that I am not saying that what...
I see what you are driving at. So if we are to use pain and suffering as our moral benchmark, some organisms may be excluded from consideration. For e...
I don't think I am denying subjectivity, if by that we mean a privileged point of view. I am also not denying that we take in information from the wor...
Dingo, I am not sure of your stance as described there - are you agreeing that when we are reasonably confident that another animal can experience pai...
Tononi's theory seems to make a lot of sense, though I think it probably better describes a particular kind of consciousness. I haven't read it in dep...
I joined this forum the other day when I found it by accident while looking for some info about a topic other than consciousness. But panpsychism intr...
I'm curious, what metric would you propose? Mind you, the original discussion was in relation to vegetarianism, extended to veganism. Neither is essen...
Oops sorry zookeeper I thought your comment was Dingo's! Dingo, no its not an arbitrary line. I suggested it is empirically motivated. Personally I do...
DingoJones, if our concern is to reduce suffering, then it isnt clear that insects suffer in morally relevant ways. Probably most insects do not exper...
You will need to offer some actual numbers to back up your claim that the loss of animals from the proportion of crops to replace meat is astronomical...
DingoJones, the point of veganism is that we have a choice. The suffering in nature is part of the natural order; we could perhaps take a stance about...
I watched this doco and it supplemented some other commentary I have seen. While it does have inaccuracies, I think it broadly supports a couple of es...
I think that veganism (which is the more ethically based "flavour" of non-meat eating) is concerned primarily with pain and suffering. The argument is...
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