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Pierre-Normand

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August 28, 2016 at 12:34
You may very well be right. The Standard Model of particle physics accounts for the 12 fermions (and the force mediating bosons) that make up the stuf...
August 28, 2016 at 07:07
This is close to my view also. There is no God's eye view, or view from nowhere, from which general statements of natural necessity can be disclosed a...
August 28, 2016 at 05:48
That doesn't make any sense. You are not using "necessary", or "possible world" in the same way any one else uses those terms. "Necessary" doesn't mea...
August 28, 2016 at 03:08
It's not a mistake of modal logic (or of "the standard modal approach", whatever that is) to resist the slide from actuality to necessity. Not everyth...
August 28, 2016 at 02:18
No, that's not what you had said. You had said that "Possibility is, by definition, not an actual state." That's a bit like saying that mammals are, b...
August 28, 2016 at 00:13
I am not going to understand your position any better if you are unwilling to clarify it. You've expressed your view thus: "Any statement about actual...
August 28, 2016 at 00:05
No, not as used by logicians and analytic philosophers. It's a basic axiom of modal logic that what is actual is, a fortiori, possible. It's not even ...
August 27, 2016 at 23:52
Have it your way then. "Determinism" in your sense is equivalent to necessitarianism, or to actualism in M. R. Arers's sense. It is a contentious meta...
August 27, 2016 at 23:44
Even if determinism is true, the state of the world at any time could still have been different if the state of the world as a whole had been differen...
August 27, 2016 at 23:33
That's only true if the first state of the world (if there is one) obtains not just actually but necessarily. This additional premise maybe something ...
August 27, 2016 at 23:19
Notice also that the same sort of mistake in modal logic can lead one fallaciously to infer the thesis of the necessity of the past from true premises...
August 27, 2016 at 23:15
Determinism doesn't have the implication that whatever is actual is necessary. Determinism rather is the weaker thesis that the state of the world at ...
August 27, 2016 at 23:01
That would make you a necessitarian rather than a determinist, although you may be a determinist as well. Necessitarianism is the view that everything...
August 27, 2016 at 21:44
There are two problems. First, the "actual France" and some "alternative France" (as you might contemplate it in some possible world) are not distinct...
August 27, 2016 at 01:35
I think the smoking gun is that Paris preexists the time when Clovis made it the capital of his Kingdom. But what has mainly been at issue in my discu...
August 27, 2016 at 00:22
The fiat at issue concerns the claim about France* (or whatever the speaker means to be referring to as "France") having Paris as it capital necessari...
August 27, 2016 at 00:06
I wouldn't want you to ask him to read the thread -- just provide the link for reference. I wouldn't want to bother any of them, myself. But sure, if ...
August 26, 2016 at 21:26
So, you are again pointing to a limitation agreed upon by everyone. This is the limitation to worlds in which the relevant objects (that are targets o...
August 26, 2016 at 21:18
Sure, if you wish. But give them a pointer to this thread so that your paraphrase of our disagreement doesn't misrepresent its nature. You still seem ...
August 26, 2016 at 21:01
I just did, immediately after the ":" (My bold) "... over a limited number ... as opposed to all possible worlds" would appear to contradict "...in al...
August 26, 2016 at 20:53
Whenever anyone speaks about France, one speaks about a country that indeed has Paris as its capital. It is generally understood that it doesn't have ...
August 26, 2016 at 20:48
Yes. That's what I am claiming. And that's what you seem to have been denying consistently: You appear, strangely, not to have realized that a posteri...
August 26, 2016 at 20:25
Sorry, this was a shorthand. I means something being said; some proposition, or claim of de re necessity.
August 26, 2016 at 20:19
You thought I was advancing something crazy and I merely clarified what I meant. Now you seem to agree. But in that case, once it is established what ...
August 26, 2016 at 20:17
That seems rather trivial to me. If someone purports to make some statement of a posteriori necessity, then, in a first step, you may indeed have to p...
August 26, 2016 at 19:16
This is a puzzling remark that you would have to explain. That something is necessary rather than contingent just means that it could not have been ot...
August 26, 2016 at 19:03
True, but then, if the division isn't clear cut, this means that many socially instituted facts (e.g. the values of currencies relative to the gold st...
August 26, 2016 at 09:28
I certainly don't disagree with this either. I am questioning the inferences that you are drawing from this. It is one thing to evaluate what is said ...
August 26, 2016 at 09:06
I don't disagree. I quite agree. You misread me. I denied that the evaluation of this sentence at possible worlds where Samuel Clemens doesn't exist i...
August 26, 2016 at 08:50
Yes, of course, social-institutional facts aren't the sorts of facts that physicists and other natural scientists are interested in. Facts of the form...
August 26, 2016 at 08:18
Not necessarily. If you analyse all singular terms as definite descriptions (as Russell does in the case of all singular referring expression except f...
August 25, 2016 at 23:16
So far as I can see, that the Sun is shining at some place X at some time T is an empirical and contingent fact of geography/meteorology/astronomy, wh...
August 25, 2016 at 23:06
Yes indeed. The crude identity statement is quite a simplification. Hilary Putnam himself was sensitive to some of those pragmatic consideration, even...
August 25, 2016 at 22:48
Well, if we are evaluating the de re modal status of a true statement (i.e. inquiring about its being necessary of merely contingently true predicatio...
August 25, 2016 at 22:44
Possible worlds in which Mark Twain never was born aren't relevant to the evaluations of the necessity of the identity between the people that we call...
August 25, 2016 at 22:20
Simply put, because, firstly, although "Samuel Clemens" and "Mark Twain" have different Fregean senses, they have the same references in all possible ...
August 25, 2016 at 21:50
Yes, and he could also have been baptized some name other than Samuel? So what? You might just as well claim that "water is H2O" doesn't express an me...
August 25, 2016 at 21:26
My claim is rather more narrow than that. I am merely denying your claim that when people think of France in some counterfactual scenario, they are th...
August 25, 2016 at 21:09
People don't come into existence when they are named. "Mark Twain was born in 1835" is a true statement in spite of the fact that he was actually bapt...
August 25, 2016 at 20:50
Actually it is a necessary statement since the context is extensional and co-referential terms can be intersubstituted in it salva veritate. The sente...
August 25, 2016 at 20:38
You are making an invalid inference from one de re necessity statement to another unrelated de re necessity statement. Just because you are thinking a...
August 25, 2016 at 20:21
Of course they are identical in any world where they exist. In possible worlds where Mark Twain never was born, the issue doesn't arise. My point it t...
August 25, 2016 at 20:06
No it is not essential, neither is it necessary, logically or metaphysically. It just so happens that you are restricting you attention to counterfact...
August 25, 2016 at 19:37
Yes, for sure, you are talking about a counterfactual situation where France still has Paris as its capital. This hardly establishes that the country,...
August 25, 2016 at 19:09
This is an example where two different things of two different sorts (and hence that possess two distinct sets of essential properties), might both be...
August 25, 2016 at 18:33
Sure, and one might just as well stipulate that "France" is the name of a turnip and therefore is essentially a vegetable. So what? If you make up ess...
August 25, 2016 at 12:54
The reason why your name picks you up rather than your body is because it has been introduced in the language (when you were baptized, say) as the nam...
August 25, 2016 at 12:20
It is not a "purported alternative France" that I was talking about; it is France. France would still be France if, counterfactually, at some point in...
August 25, 2016 at 09:01
The "magic" involved simply is stipulation. There may seem to arise a problem if you endorse some sort of modal realism (i.e. realism about possible w...
August 25, 2016 at 05:45