Harry Hindu

Not over, but as. Happenings as is, object as event and doing as being. It seems to me that these terms are interchangeable depending upon which view ...

I would say it's more a battle between authoritarianism and liberalism. In (what is suppose to be) a free society authoritarianism is the extreme.

But why? That's the question I'm asking. What makes machines different? What is a machine? Are their not biological machines? Humans are not special b...

It is known how it is done, or else they wouldn't be able to consistently put people under anesthesia for surgery and they wake up with no issues. The...

Yeah, just ask Nancy Pelosi. The fact that you make some argument that is hypocritical in the light of the other side's actions just shows that either...

So what you're saying is that you need a mind to be intelligent? What exactly is a mind? You say you have one, but what is it, and what magic does org...

Well, isn't that the beauty of the Constitution of the U.S.? It wasn't that long ago that the Dems wanted to make a similar change to the Constitution...

But where does this doubt stem from if not a bias that humans are intelligent and not machines? There is no logical reason to think this without a def...

Only if you have a peculiarly limited view of genetics. Everything humans do is a subgoal of survival and dispersing the genes of the group. The desig...

I did not imply a sense of morality in anything that I said, or that being intelligent or emotional is either positive or negative. You are talking ab...

Redundant information. I already knew you weren't in it to begin with, which was the point I was making.

"State of affairs" is fine with me. I've use that phrase before as well. Numbers can only be conceived once you establish mental categories and member...

From a genetic point of view humans are just a baby-making (gene dispersal) engine. Put AI in a robot body with cameras to see, microphones to hear, t...

What if we were to start with the idea that intelligence comes in degrees? Depending on how many properties of intelligence some thing exhibits, it po...

One of the things I like about ChatGPT when it comes to discussing philosophy with it is that it does not hold any emotional attachments to the things...

Fair point. The same could be said about philosophers not agreeing on what is intelligent and how to define intelligence. Even you have agreed that we...

You were talking about people that attribute terms like "intelligence" to LLMs as being deluded. My point is that philosophers seem to think they know...

Strange. I posed the same question in the exact same way to ChatGPT and it did not think it was a contradiction. It understood the question as I inten...

We could start by defining "intelligence" and "consciousness". Considering how many people today are lazy thinkers, I think that there is a growing re...

Ohhhhh! I get it now! You're a p-zombie! So Chalmers was wrong because p-zombies DO behave differently (they talk differently about what thoughts and ...

If this does not describe the current political climate, I don't know what does.

This isn't much different than how various species have re-purposed certain traits (think of the ostrich's wings), or re-purposing a chair as a weapon...

I wasn't talking about terms or words (scribbles). I was talking about the visual of a cat in your mind - the cat that you think of when thinking of c...

Is there an ontological relation between mind and world? Is there an ontological relation between different thoughts? Can it be said that each sentenc...

Exactly. The problem isn't one party or the other. The problem is both parties. Abolish political parties. Abolish group-think and group-hate.

This could be said for any organism with an array of senses that responds in real-time to immediate changes in the environment. The world as a dynamic...

One that might be is the same as a possible cat. If you can only think of the cat in front of you or one that might be, how would you recognize a cat ...

You brought up the rules of chess as a separate example to numbers, so if chess has nothing to do with numbers, that's your problem, not mine. Why is ...

Are you saying you have the final word on the nature of existence? Are you saying that the matter of the ontology of existence has been settled? I don...

So something is true simply by saying it? What happens when someone else says, "Snow White isn't white"? Can contradictory statements be true? If ever...

Would you say you are simulating expressing it coherently, essentially thinking what you are going to say before saying it? https://www.merriam-webste...

Then you are talking to yourself when thinking? What are you talking to yourself ABOUT? Do the imagined sounds in your mind represent other things tha...

You say that your favorite version of "truth" is one where you can never know what the "truth" is. :meh: How is your version independent of us if it i...

I don't know either. You were the one that used the phrase "the way we think" and I was just going with the flow. I assumed you knew what you were tal...

Could we say that one can simulate one view within another? Can we simulate a third person view from the first person? I'm not sure. It seems that the...

Look up the definition of "be" and you will see the definition is "exist". :roll: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/be 2.a. : to have an obje...

What I meant was that while language does change what we can think, it does not change the way we think. It is merely representative of the way we alr...

What is the difference between first and third person anyway? It seems to me that you are always stuck in one view and the other view is simply changi...

As I have said, learning anything can play a role in your ability to think in ways you did not before. Language is not special in this regard. After y...

You said, ...which I understand to mean that the word, "truth" is meaningless if we could never know when we know the truth and when we don't. I'm try...

Sure he thinks in ways he could not before. He now understands that there are ideas can be shared. Can't it be said that you change when you learn any...

Any example you use proves my point, not yours, as how could you be here in this thread proving the existence of something that you claim has no causa...

Saying so doesn't make it so. I'm using real-world examples to prove my point that numbers do have causal efficacy. Numbers are ideas and ideas have c...

If we link the truth to our goals does that resolve the problem? The information we use to accomplish some goal is true. The information we use that c...

Straw-men. Not the point. Moving the goal posts. You've given a new set of circumstances. Ok. What caused your brain to do that if not the visual of s...

As I have already explained, observation alone does not constitute knowledge. It is observations coupled with reasoning that constitutes knowledge. It...

If scribble/utterance-use is conveying first-person experiences in the third person, then what does it mean to use scribbles/utterances in your mind t...

You also don't have hands, ChatGPT. I think that is the more important qualifier here because there is still a question what a subjective experience i...

As I have already pointed out, it is simply the sheer number of symbols being used, along with the sheer number of relations between the scribbles (le...

Again, it wasn't the fruit you bought that made her angry. It was the number of fruit. Would you be angry at your doctor if they instructed you to tak...