Meaning, like information, is related to the relationship between cause and effect. Meaning is the same as information. The meaning of some ink mark i...
Personally, I don't like the term, "law", applied to how things are. It implies that there is some intent in the way things are, which would then requ...
I believe that the true nature of the relationship between mind and world will be answered via the investigation of natural processes using a differen...
When you say, "laws of physics", do you mean the explanations science currently provides, which even science admits could be wrong, or do you mean the...
Thank you for this. I'm not sure if you noticed, but I put "physical" (and "non-physical") in quotes because the whole basis of this thread is questio...
What other kind of explanation would it be? How would we test the veracity of the explanation? Your "unwillingness" to explain is evidence for my case...
Thank you, Michael, for answering the question that needed to be answered so that this discussion can finally move toward it's conclusion. IF "physica...
Mysteries are evidence of our ignorance. Wasn't it Socrates - you know, that Greek dude that you "philosophers" like to quote so much - that said: "Th...
So then the words, "physical" and "non-physical" don't refer to any real state of affairs outside of one's own skull. That seems to support what I've ...
Perfect, then you finally agree with me for what I've been saying for months now - that effects inform us of the cause. So we aren't measuring someone...
Another way of saying this is that science doesn't try to answer questions that don't make sense, or aren't falsifiable. What makes any answer to any ...
Can we not get at someone's intent (non-physical) by observing their behavior (physical)? Can we not get at someone's ideas (non-physical) by reading ...
I've seen a few responses that describe the physical as what is described by physics, and what is non-physical is not. I already asked these questions...
No, the problem is that I understand it perfectly. It is you that simply fails to ask simple question of your own beliefs that you delude yourself int...
What do subjective qualities mean in this instance if not the feeling of looking out from a particular location at a particular time? Stripped of thos...
MU, you really need to think a bit more before posting. It takes just a few seconds of thought to come up with real examples that show that what you s...
Do they mean that the non-physical is forever and always unmeasureable? Are there things that are physical that haven't been measured? I don't know wh...
I don't think so, as most (if not all) physicalists are realists, so there things that physics hasn't currently disclosed, that are real, and "physica...
Isn't a "heartbreak" physical? Why do we call it a "heartbreak" if not for the feeling in the chest we get when we contemplate a negative event? Is a ...
I think this is kind of what I'm trying to get at - this ontological reduction to one "substance". What do we mean by the word, "substance"? It seems ...
To ask questions, just as it is the point of science to answer them. There are many "philosophers" that simply don't like the answers science provides...
No, it is obviously you who is misunderstanding. Is a ship with three masts a physical thing or no? The fact that you say it isn't shows that it is yo...
But the number of masts on a ship is a physical thing. You see the masts and can feel them. So you have failed to show what exactly is non-physical. T...
If the immaterial, or non-physical things aren't accessible by the senses, then how is it that we even know about anything non-physical? Our knowledge...
It seems to me that I have answered the question of "Is information physical?". It is physical and non-physical, with concrete and abstract thinking b...
1. What exactly is the distinction you are trying to make when using the terms, "non-physical" and "physical"? What exactly does it mean for something...
I still don't see how it is useful to make that distinction when talking about information flow and cause and effect. We are simply talking about the ...
I already agreed to that and even explained what abstract thought was in relation to getting at information (the causal relationships between causes a...
Wrong. Depending on what we are talking about, the cause can be "physical" and the effect "non-physical", or vice versa. Or it is even possible that t...
You, like Wayfarer, are simply trying to move the goal-posts. I'm talking about information flow and causation. You are simply talking about different...
Stimulus and response and language and abstraction are simply different forms of information flow. You're simply talking about different levels of cau...
Isn't that my point - that it ISN'T useful to make such a distinction when talking about causation and information flow? What exactly IS the distincti...
So what if the representation is "physical"?! Ideas can be representations too. You are still caught up in this false dichotomy of "physical" vs. "non...
How did you even know that flags are being waved if a flow of information (that flags are being waved) didn't happen? It seems to me that you thinking...
Well, yeah - a view from everywhere. I don't know how that would possible either, just a like a view from nowhere. So it seems to me that to talk abou...
If you can only convey the mental imagery in your head to others by converting it into a physical format, like the screen with letters on it that you ...
I think you mean that one needs to detach their emotional investments from what they experience. That would be a more objective outlook if one could a...
Doesn't "what is represented or conveyed by a particular arrangement or sequence of things" relate to the cause of "what is represented or conveyed by...
I experience not being separate by simply eating and breathing - consuming things that are not me so that I may continue being me. I don't understand ...
Then the theory of natural selection proves that Aristotle was right as opposed to Plato? What are "particulars"? Would that be similar to saying that...
Well, I do see everything as interconnected. I mean our own bodies wouldn't exist if not for food and air - both of which exist "separate" from our bo...
The theory of natural selection, which Aristotle and Plato didn't know about when making their explanations, brings human beings and their ideas fully...
So it sounds like it's merely a way of deluding ourselves into forgetting ourselves for a time. What you seem to be calling transcending, I call delud...
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