Here is what I know. Spiration is the "making" of the Holy Spirit through the love between the Father and the Son. Procession is the opposite relation...
Hello. Here is my understanding of this Catholic article on the Trinity. (The relevant section is called The Divine Relations). By Law of Identity, if...
I can't. I too believe that all motives have an attraction. My point was that even though the two general ends have an attraction, the choice to prior...
They are an influence insofar as we have knowledge of them, although indeed they have no attraction. It is not without care if it is willed, as oppose...
As previously mentioned, the general concepts of pleasure and the ethical don't have strengths, as they are general and not particular instances. The ...
To be clear, this claim that "strength is not a factor" only applies to the initial act of prioritizing one end over the other. After that, strength i...
Because, as mentioned a while back, it is possible to choose what is ethical at the cost of sacrificing great pleasure, or vice versa, choose pleasure...
I agree that both pleasure and the ethical are types of motives. But the two ends differ not in degree (i.e. strength) but in kind. As last ends, we c...
I don't deny that these are all possible motives of pleasure; but I still claim that it is possible to choose the right thing simply on the basis that...
Alright. So the end of pleasure is the motive, and information is an influence. This clarifies things. Now, for the sake of argument, let's buy into t...
Most of the concerns above may be cleared up if we can clarify what constitutes "motivation". If motivation is nothing but "what we expect to bring us...
That may indeed be the case. If a motive is like a force that pulls the will in its direction, and if the will were to be truly free in the initial ch...
Sounds good. So my point is that the initial choice of prioritizing the ends of pleasure or the ethical, which can be made prior to any particular ins...
The end is indeed what motivates the will to choose it, but not because of its strength (those general ends don't have a strength; only particular ins...
As I see it, nothing prevents the choice of the end to be motivated by the end itself. Choose pleasure because the end is pleasurable, or choose the e...
It is not unmotivated since the act is motived by the ethical. So to reiterate: The end goal between pleasure and the ethical, i.e. black angel and wh...
I am fine with saying that satisfaction is a type of pleasure, and also that it results from reaching a chosen goal. But it does not follow that we ch...
If satisfaction is a good feeling then it is a type of pleasure. And if, as you say, we choose what brings the most satisfaction, then we are back to ...
Right. But the greater satisfaction comes from the greater of the two goods, which is the one we have freely chosen to prioritize. Given its definitio...
My understanding is that "satisfaction" is the feeling we get from attaining an expected good. E.g. If I have good expectations for a movie and these ...
If by "desire" you mean "drive for pleasure", then no, the choice to be ethical does not always come from a desire. If on the other hand you mean "int...
Sounds good. We could say the "pleasurable" is seeking pleasure and comfort, and also avoiding pain and discomfort. I'd argue the opposite. If you per...
Would you say that for you, there is only one last end or motive, being pleasure? Thus when you say "we do what we want", does it mean "we do what ple...
Why choose pleasure? Because it is pleasurable. Why do the right (ethical) thing? Because it is the right thing to do. Pleasure and the ethical are la...
Why? As previously mentioned, free will by definition satisfies the principle of sufficient reason on its own. Thus setting the intention towards one ...
An unintentional act would be the opposite of an act from free will, because the word 'will' is synonymous to 'intention'. E.g. I will to do this = I ...
But if the "choice" is determined by a motive that is determined, then the whole system is determined, and free choice is just an illusion. Isn't that...
Indeed, if I choose the second path, then it means that to me, the ethical is a priority over pleasure, no matter how great the pleasure is expected t...
I argue it matters, for 2 reasons. 1. Even if you comply, you are still free to change your mind later. 2. Free choice implies more than one option. I...
Okay. Depending on what you mean by compatibilist free will, we may or may not be in agreement. My standpoint is that while the will is indeed driven ...
It may be a correct neuro scientific description of the brain activities, but the will, being free, must be above those deterministic factors. Picture...
I can't always tell; but there is a difference between perception and reality. And that difference matters. E.g. the difference between freely accepti...
From your description, I picture two minions inside a brain wrestling to pull a lever towards themselves haha. If that description is fitting for what...
Again, I mostly agree. Now this may be splitting hair, but I wonder if it's worth making the distinction between passively following the will of other...
Was this meant to refute something that I have previously said? Otherwise, I agree with that description of free will. I would just add that you also ...
Hmmm... Let's take a step back. A better description of inclination would be a drive towards pleasure and comfort, and away from pain and discomfort. ...
There is a difference between falling asleep because you choose to, and falling asleep because you have to. Example of the former: you could work late...
Inclination is an "internal force", not in the sense of a physical force F=ma, but a drive, desire, or temptation. Free will can resist temptations no...
Yes, as along as that the drive to sleep is merely an inclination and not a necessity. E.g. if you pass out from exhaustion, then this is too strong t...
Indeed, I think that may work. The following assumptions would have to be true: 1. The inclination for recidivism would always or almost always have t...
I don't think the test would work, because we don't know how effective free will is to counter recidivism. We could know that if we could observe some...
Mmmh... Let's put it this way: For a given case, if recidivism happens, then deterrence and rehabilitation will not be effective, regardless if we hav...
Kool I did not know about that word! That said, what is your argument? Are you saying that recidivism prevents deterrence and rehabilitation from bein...
Creatures without free will can also change. Instead of coming from free will, the change can come from external factors that can happen through deter...
Hello. Of course, if everything is determined, then everything is determined. But we can still talk about things being true or false, and good or bad....
Hello. This is close to my view. I would however correct you here: I think deterrent and rehabilitative are still applicable without free will. Most o...
Sure. I have attempted to answer this question here. Of course, this would be circular. But that was not my point. My point here was that we cannot ha...
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