Mapping the Medium

Moving forward... What we will do in this thread is first try to go back in time to when these nominalistic and Platonistic divergences in 'thought' t...

Ok. Thank you for letting me know that you are not interested in participating in this thread. Fortunately, there are plenty of threads on this site f...

Of course you do. If you want to participate in this thread, I only ask that you keep your mind open regarding what you think you know of Peirce, as w...

Just to clarify, my framework is 'Evrostics'. -evros breadth, as in breadth of a river -tic relating to a process or state

I am only pointing to the 'isms' that others have labeled. I am not a follower of any 'ism'.

Thanks for stepping up and clarifying your position.

Please see the image I just posted above. Trying to put Peirce in either nominalism or Platonism (label or categorize him) just doesn't work no matter...

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Image link didn't work. I'll post it later on my site and then use that link to post it here. ... I'll be back. :wink:

In moving on to 'Precisive Abstraction', it will be helpful to stay aware of the differences in the ways that nominalism, Platonism, and Peirce approa...

This will be my final description of the differences between nominalism, Platonism, and Peirce in this thread. There is clearly no reason for me to ke...

I can only say that understanding Peirce's intention takes a lot of time in research and study. There's clearly nothing I can say to you to instill th...

No. This is where the misconception lies. Perhaps you didn't read what I posted on the other thread. I will post it here for your review. ----- Intrin...

On to Precisive Abstraction ... Unlike hypostatic abstraction, precisive abstraction involves isolating certain aspects of a concept while deliberatel...

I am spending the holiday with family, working, hiking, and enjoying some nature and sunshine. They are all special to me. I'm going to open the next ...

:sparkle: Happy New Year!

Intrinsic Properties are characteristics that an object has in itself, independently of anything else. For example, the shape of an object is an intri...

You may have missed my statements about how I feel about Platonism. .... This is all fleshed out historically, by studying nominalism's conceptual ear...

Thank you for adding this background to the discussion. The quote we were examining was from one of his lectures. We can only speculate as to how his ...

Again...... Haphazard' Hypostatic Abstraction... refers to the careless or uncritical process of reifying a quality, relation, or concept into a separ...

It might be helpful for some readers to go back just a bit in this thread and review the interaction I had last night with Banno.

That of someone whose thought has been influenced by nominalism, hence the binary categorization nature of your question.

I like where you're going with this. Are you now envisioning a fractal-like nature of sweetness that maintains that thread in the continuum? It also h...

That of someone whose thought has been influenced by it.

No doubt. ... You have reached a midway point in the attempt to understand, but you still have some ways to go. You are approaching this from a nomina...

Peirce isn’t conflating or confusing "physical objects" and "mental objects" but rather proposing a more flexible and relational understanding of "obj...

Yes, there are some things reminiscent of General Semantics, but General Semantics is more nominalistic. :wink:

Perhaps this would be a good time to move on to 'precisive abstraction'. I am going to calm my dog due to the fireworks in my neighborhood. Happy New ...

Perhaps now you are beginning to understand how I feel about nominalism and Platonism. They are both major societal problems because none of this is t...

I did not mean for my last posts to come across as overly critical. My intent was to just unpack this as succinctly as possible. It's a tricky subject...

He is you. I will go back and edit. :wink:

I was referring to what I said previously about this quote...... The temptation is to hypostatize — Banno I apologize, as I didn't mean to refer to yo...

'Haphazard' Hypostatic Abstraction... refers to the careless or uncritical process of reifying a quality, relation, or concept into a separate concret...

No. What's interesting is in that warning about the temptation to hypostasize, that's exactly what Banno did.

Very true. This is why those who try to associate Peirce with Platonism are so off base. ... Don't even get me started on that. I have a major pet pee...

And people. ... Exactly. ... LLMs concretize abstractions haphazardly, like many people often do, but people are in real life situations, where metaph...

I want to expand on this a bit..... Again, it is important to recognize that Peirce was a teacher and lecturer. He used language as needed to help his...

Again, Secondness is not an object, as in your interpretation. Firstness, Secondness, and Thirdness are a triadic relationship. There are no separatio...

To understand 'moment' in mathematics and physics is to understand that time is a continuum, and a moment has no duration. Measuring something with ze...

I absolutely do not expect you to. That was my point.

I had posted this in another thread, but it seems like it might be helpful in this one too. If not, just bypass. The link at TensorFlow Projector show...

And I certainly hope the same for you. :smile:

So sorry, my previous post wasn't complete. It seems like you're raising a couple of different points, so let me try to address them. If I understand ...

Yes. It does seem quite clear that you do not.

You seem to misunderstand the rigor behind Peirce’s triadic categories. Firstness, Secondness, and Thirdness are not arbitrary—they are grounded in Pe...

Thank you, but that doesn't pertain to what we were doing in this exercise in logic.

There's clearly no need for me to post anymore under these circumstances, but thank you.

Believe it or not, there is confidence to be found in understanding uncertainty, but I realize that this idea is very foreign to most people, especial...

Thanks. I look forward to reading your contributions to threads here.

No offense taken