I think it depends on what a person wants. -If someone (genuinely) wants to be murdered, then it's not (at least not necessarily) immoral to murder th...
Well, I have been trying to go at identity from my limited grasp of eastern philosophy on the matter. Specifically stuff like what Ramana Maharshi tal...
But if I meet another structure exactly like mine, but composed of different particles, I would be me and not them. That must mean my identity is root...
I guess I can agree with you? But I don't see how your two posts form a coherent picture of the world we live in. Are you a reductionist or aren't you...
What do you mean by 'stuff'? Do you mean particles of matter/energy? Because isn't everything besides particles of matter/energy relationships between...
I have no idea how to go about determining the "nature of being". I don't really even know what "nature of being" means (going by a simple definition ...
Consider this sentence: "Hi, I am this sentence" True or false claim? False, because the one who wrote the sentence is not the sentence. the 'I am' re...
I don't mind being silly, unless it means I am wrong or offensive. I think you meant the perception of sentence sentience? I guess my point about the ...
It seems like people who believe stuff can happen without a mind are very selective on what those things are...apparently words can mean things withou...
I think its always a mind who labels sensory data as being objects, then interprets objects to be symbols, then attaches meaning to the symbols, event...
So if there was a painting with the words painted on it "I am a painting". You think the painting is literally referring to itself? Isn't reference a ...
Hi I am back to this old thread. Thanks for all the good conversation before. I started reading it again and may reply to old posts as I've thought mo...
Except that isn't the case. You described my thought process from a 3rd person perspective, thereby demonstrating that there is not only a first perso...
Imagine two people in a debate, one is in space, and one is on earth. One says: The sun moves around the earth. Everyone on earth has witnessed the su...
Before you can claim consciousness depends on matter, you have to clearly define matter and conciousness. Science has not defined either adequately. I...
I think this is your argument, which kind of reads in a confusing way...: 1. The mind is a brain function. 2. For a brain function you need a brain 3....
Here is another thought experiment but first I want to restate an argument I didn't have a reply to: Consider the fact that if consciousenss correlate...
And in Christian Science only God and mind have ultimate reality. Calling something a science doesn't necessarily make it one. And a "scientific" disc...
That sounds logical but could experiencer, experiencing, and experience... or self, perception, and object perceived...could such division be a delusi...
Makes sense. This sounds rock solid...But, does it necessarily imply duality? But If duality is not true, I think that would necessarily infer that se...
Kenosha...thinking some more, I don't think I had understood your point about a brain not requiring a brain function, but a brain function requires a ...
Hi Kenosha Kid You expressed a tautology (if I use that word right) that can apply to any thing. a materialist can say: A brain can exist without acti...
I would like to offer a counter argument to a 'matter is primary' argument I heard before. I think the argument goes 'Thinking correlates with certain...
Sorry I want to simplify my position. Thought occuring doesn't prove self, but it does prove awareness. Whether or not awareness qualifies as being ca...
Lichtenberg's statement seems like it makes less assumptions at first. Instead of saying "I think" just say "thought is occurring". I think he is righ...
Everyone thinks I'm talking about the ephemeral I concept. The concept of the world and the I concept are both constantly changing and relative. I'm t...
I must admit I've read some plato, including the Republic - Thanks though (I could perhaps read more.) thanks. Doing philosophy is quite hard. Especia...
By the way... I think the problem of consciousness could relate to the question 'how does a singular entity arise from a multiplicity' When a group of...
I disagree that understanding is the origin of all concepts. I think it is misunderstanding that is the origin of concepts. Concepts are generated in ...
Maybe I should wait for a response but...another quick point... At most we could say that our experiences correspond with a world. But no amount of co...
Well, physicalists claim ...correct me if I'm wrong...atoms of light reflect off of atoms in a "world" and those atoms hit our eyes. And the atoms of ...
If the whole universe is a simulation, then it is being generated by consciousness, not by computers. Any computers you could find in the universe wou...
Direct experience does not reveal an external physical world. You actually have to assume metaphysical physicalism in order to have the illusion of ex...
[ How is switching from non-existence to existence any different from switching between nothing and something? Either before consciousness I was nothi...
So you are saying if you exist again, then you didn't really cease existing prior. Which is my point, and what necessarily follows if pre and post exi...
I mean like, in order to make a clay bowl, you have to first have clay. You don't really change the essence of the clay just because you shape it into...
As far as I can tell, part of me goes to sleep at night, while another part remains aware of myself sleeping. What goes to sleep, is the ego, not my e...
But imaginability vs non-imaginability can work as a form of proof. I can imagine existing without having memories or a body etc. I can imagine all so...
How can pre-existence have a property? How can non-existence BE a property? Do not only things have properties? Non-existence isn't a thing. It refers...
There ain't nothin to say about nothing. It ain't, and that's it. As soon as you turn nothing into something, you go from making sense to talkin no se...
Here is another argument: 1. Pre-existence = non-existence 2. Post-existence = non-existence 3. Pre-existence = post-existence If my status could chan...
Let me try to phrase this in a newtonian way...though it may not fit. Things at rest tend to stay at rest Could we call non-being a sort of being at r...
But can we actually imagine consciousness coming out of something else, or consciousness not existing? I said imagine....that is my fault. You don't H...
OK, so if I didn't come into being until later...the question still remains. Why did this body generate my consciousness. If I was nothing at all prio...
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