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Sentient beings and objects, you mean. Which is like saying human beings aren't simply objects. Fine. Noted. Move on.
November 16, 2021 at 01:03
Are you? Let me help: Notice the "and." Then: "The pushing of environment activists -- like the Sunrise Movement -- will continue, despite predictable...
November 16, 2021 at 01:00
If those were the only choices, and there was even a chance that Goebbels would be less damaging than Hitler, or that there would be even a slightly b...
November 16, 2021 at 00:41
See if you can understand this for now the 100th time: Being in ontology does NOT refer exclusively to sentient entities. But feel free to go on ignor...
November 16, 2021 at 00:33
It is indeed a stupid comparison- but you’re the only one making it. Trump was more damaging, so the easy choice is to vote against Trump. Doesn’t mea...
November 16, 2021 at 00:25
It’s a trivial decision that takes a few seconds. The important work of activism, educating, organizing, unionizing, protesting, creating programs, et...
November 15, 2021 at 16:01
:rofl: Imagine still being confused about how to vote.
November 15, 2021 at 12:49
Yes, we know taking three seconds to vote against Trump was too hard a choice for you. Biden is indeed better than Trump on the environment, and the p...
November 15, 2021 at 05:19
:lol: I like a lot of what Rand said but she’s very simplistic indeed. Imagine equating with values and happiness with wealth creation. No wonder she ...
November 15, 2021 at 05:14
Well said. But capitalism is “natural,” so therefore it’s good. I mean, at least it’s not - gasp - socialism! :scream:
November 15, 2021 at 05:02
:rofl:
November 15, 2021 at 01:51
Very true, although I’d argue I’m being realistic. Nevertheless, as I said, I’m not by any means using it as an excuse to give up, because I never rea...
November 14, 2021 at 15:33
What Chomsky points out is trivial -- he's saying there's a genetic component to language, and that's all. I've never understood why this is controver...
November 14, 2021 at 02:35
Another interesting passage worth mulling over: So again, from the very beginning of Western thought, we've been oriented towards thinking as presence...
November 14, 2021 at 02:26
Yeah, but that sounds like ordinary people -- who I don't necessarily blame. I blame the people at the top, the corporate, political, and intellectual...
November 14, 2021 at 02:21
There's an important point where he uses awareness -- or at least that's how the Robinson version translates it: (p. 48 H26, B&T) This entire passage ...
November 14, 2021 at 02:18
So nearly nothing came out of COP26, as about expected, and we're almost certainly facing an unparalleled destruction in human history. In other words...
November 14, 2021 at 01:56
Sure, but Marx's influence has been rather diminished as well. Frankly I never cared much about Hegel's influence or Marx's philosophical positions --...
November 13, 2021 at 21:56
Right, in the same way "human being" isn't used. The terms are too loaded to use. But if we throw out the subject/object distinction, and read it more...
November 13, 2021 at 21:53
No. I'll reflect your level of politeness. Unpack what you mean in the second sentence for me a bit, if you please. Yes. How many people truly questio...
November 13, 2021 at 21:48
Thanks. I screwed it up somehow…
November 13, 2021 at 04:42
Yes, the ontological distinction: being and beings. The former is what we’re inquiring about.
November 13, 2021 at 04:20
The "is" discussion isn't of that much interest to me. The main points I wanted to make are as follows: (1) From the Greek inception onward, being has...
November 13, 2021 at 03:11
Glad to understand your standards. :up:
November 13, 2021 at 02:54
Sure. Doesn't have to be a time limit. I sent a challenge for three days.
November 13, 2021 at 02:42
:yawn: Yes, we know. Very original take. This thread isn't about Heidegger. If you have nothing to contribute, then there's no sense continuing. Go st...
November 13, 2021 at 02:41
No, they aren't.
November 13, 2021 at 02:38
And entities are beings.
November 13, 2021 at 01:31
It's not the definition in ontology. Objects are beings, like everything else. They're beings. That's not what "noumenal" means. Numbers are not "noum...
November 13, 2021 at 01:28
Want a game? We should coordinate a time if you're interested. I'm "seinsfrage."
November 12, 2021 at 21:01
This is excellent. I'm surprised I've missed this thread for so long. Two small points: 1) I'd differentiate "work" from a "job." You seem to be using...
November 12, 2021 at 19:19
No, I'm saying persistence and becoming, stability and change, are "in" being themselves. There's the being of stasis and the being of change. So bein...
November 12, 2021 at 19:02
I don't think this is fair. It can be said of Kant and Hegel as well. Heidegger is difficult, yes, but open to everyone. If I can make sense of it, an...
November 12, 2021 at 18:27
No one is saying that there aren’t differences between beings. Of course apes are different from rocks. But they’re still entities, beings. To say an ...
November 12, 2021 at 16:00
I don’t consider it controversial, I consider it irrelevant to ontology. If we define beings as sentient beings and “things”as everything else, there’...
November 12, 2021 at 15:53
I’m not re-defining the term. This is the historical usage. If you want to restrict the meaning of beings exclusively to human being (or sentient bein...
November 12, 2021 at 15:47
:rofl:
November 12, 2021 at 15:26
Yes, but this thread is about ontology, which is using "being" very differently than exclusively for sentient entities.
November 12, 2021 at 05:03
It's not a view of time. Persistence and becoming both presuppose being. They are also thought of in terms of the present-at-hand, as things that pers...
November 12, 2021 at 05:00
Beings are things, yes. Rocks, trees, particles, love, music, toothpaste, apes, snakes, numbers...you get the point. The fundamental ontological disti...
November 12, 2021 at 04:28
The being of dasein is temporality, which interprets being. Not being in general.
November 12, 2021 at 03:09
I fail to see how, if it’s a matter of definition, but so be it. I like to think I’m intense with everything I care about. :strong: In that case there...
November 12, 2021 at 03:08
As if wealth can be accumulated to this degree without a state. The state giveth, the state can taketh.
November 12, 2021 at 02:56
I'd like to redirect the conversation to something I pointed out earlier. I'm surprised no one took issue with it. It's crucial to the OP and (my read...
November 12, 2021 at 02:13
In ontology, being is not restricted to human beings or sentient beings. It's a matter of terminology. We can make all kinds of distinctions, and we d...
November 12, 2021 at 02:11
Right -- remember what Trump said once, that he's the "king of debt." Borrowing, debt, bankruptcy, bailouts. I admire the way the wealthy have rigged ...
November 12, 2021 at 01:56
I wouldn't say that to exist means becoming and not stasis. In that case we're in the being/becoming distinction again, only taking the side of the la...
November 12, 2021 at 01:45
"Buy, borrow, die." This is what the rich do to avoid taxes. They avoid income taxes because they don't have "income," they mostly have stock. They bo...
November 12, 2021 at 01:35
What a joke. Capital gains tax is less than income and payroll taxes for ordinary Americans, when looking at percentage of income, not absolute number...
November 12, 2021 at 01:27
A quality is nothing? Sounds like something to me.
November 11, 2021 at 23:18