BitconnectCarlos

We're not talking about atrocity right now. We're talking about understanding.

You also don't use it to understand conflicts as they are understood by those actually engaged in them.

No it is Israel's existence. But understanding this would involve taking on the perspective of another culture/religion which is clearly beyond your c...

I understand your idea here and it's crossed my mind as well. I'm also not claiming to be a Middle East expert by any means. The issue here is that it...

If they're going across a border then Israel and Egypt control it, otherwise internally it's Hamas. It is Hamas who is hunting down and executing gays...

Yes, there are extremist Zionists who I regard as a problem. There are extremists on both sides and they both work off each other - one side says or d...

The Palestinians in Gaza are not part of Israel, thus they can't be under "apartheid." They are part of their own separate region, and there are no Is...

Judaism is not a race nor are Arabs. It makes no sense to call Israel racist against Arabs. If Israel is apartheid why do Arab Christians do quite wel...

You're not going to get that -- welcome to the Middle East. You are never going to get your request here. To think that anyone can come from outside t...

It all depends on the framework that you approach the conflict with. If your entire goal is to bash one side, sure you'll take material or arguments o...

Bankei, I'm agreeing with you. Read my post again.

It's irrelevant from a purely philosophical standpoint, but in the world of practical action something like this is very relevant. The problem with po...

yeah they're all basically the same everyone is hitler.

I just couldn't help myself. Hey 180 are you a man? Straight? Able-bodied? Neurotypical? Do you have savings? A place to live? Any speech problems? Wh...

Collateral damage is an inevitability of war/military conflict and not the same thing morally as intentional murder. Even when the allies targeted Naz...

I'll criticize Israel on multiple occasions, it's you who refuses to strongly criticize any of the Palestinian movements.

a) The intentional murder of Palestinian children is not permitted morally and is not a practice of the Israeli government. 180 took one statement out...

Don't tell me you wouldn't react in the same way if someone told you that Dutch children (including your own) were valid targets. It's not my fault yo...

Yeah, this was all I needed to hear. As long as you believe this you're an enemy of the Jewish people and I'm not engaging with you. There's no way ar...

I wasn't even talking to you, Benkei, but in any case it's the same thing with you - the refusal to condemn the "victim." This isn't about me at all b...

Hey 180, you're a man, right? What if an abused woman assaulted you because you reminded her of someone? I guess we just refuse to condemn her; how co...

Are you talking about the CEO? How about the board of directors? The board of directors act on behalf of investors. This is not totalitarianism where ...

Your genuine concern here is a breath of fresh air in this thread. Thanks for the input.

Please clarify this. Who are you talking about? The founder? CEO? The person interviewing you for the job? The hiring manager who approves the applica...

That is a damn good question and I'm not sure how to answer. My own convictions on the topic are grounded by my theism, but in addition morality can't...

Yeah, and the issue in real life is that people claim "necessity" as a way to avoid moral responsibility... repeatedly. Even if someone could reasonab...

Yeah, it would depend on the nature of the immorality, no? Polluting is different from murder or theft. How would you treat someone who scammed a fami...

I was making an explanation since you seemed to be under the impression that the boss controls how all tasks are done. My point was that in these dele...

This isn't about capitalism, this is about how organizations work. Any organization. The boss cannot know and does not know all the features of those ...

Gaza city doesn't matter because I'm asking you about murdered Jews. Just own up that you don't care about murdered Jews as long as they're Israeli/Zi...

I have no idea what "take a good long look at Gaza city means." Gaza city doesn't matter. I am asking you about murdering israelis. stay on topic. I d...

I'm not engaging with you until I hear whether Israeli teenagers out on a Saturday night or random people in a coffee shop qualify as "Goliath" or "Is...

Sure, we can question it in hindsight. We're in a pretty big mess in the Middle East, but Israel was created in 1948 and it's 2021. We can entertain t...

Please stay on topic. We're talking about the murder of Israeli citizens. The fact that you're not giving me a straight answer speaks for itself. I al...

Do Israeli teenagers out on a Saturday night count as "Israel" or "Goliath?" How about random Israelis in coffee shops?

LOL I must have misread you somewhere! Ok lol. In order for this to happen white allies need to take direction from black communities. We absolutely n...

Very suave of you to avoid my last question.

I have no idea what you're talking about. What is your attitude towards intentional violence towards Israeli civilians? Do you condemn it? Yes or no. ...

Then please clarify. To be anti-zionist is to support the disappearance/vanishment of Israel which sounds like murder to most ears. Israel is already ...

Moral integrity? Moral integrity? You condone Hamas' terror attacks, you don't get to tell me about moral integrity. I only question whether you reall...

I actually misspoke here and I wanted to correct this. You're not a racist, you're just a psycho. I thought you were a racist because you have no issu...

You'd like us if we were dead, 180. You love dead Jews (or subjugated ones), they can't oppress anyone -- perfectly harmless, just like everyone shoul...

Not dealing with your bullshit feels so good. :cool: I don't interact with racists, period.

I'm not engaging you on this subject. After what you've said I'm done with you. Zionism = Jewish liberation movement. I don't care what you think abou...

I'd be afraid if I had a reason to be, for instance if there was residual anti-Semitism that reached the point of violence. There's so few Jews in Lat...

I am an Eastern European Jew who lost many family members in the Holocaust. I have never been to Romania, Latvia, or Lithuania but let's assume their ...

Alright, well here we go. No, I went to school and grew up in an upper-middle class area of Massachusetts in the suburbs. I think they taught us US hi...

Sure - don't forget, but also don't base your whole mentality around it. The Nazi hunters are all dead now and last one died out around a decade ago, ...

The central lesson of Jewish history and the cultural message should never be taught as "never forgive, never forget" and if you think that's how Jews...

Alright so how do you want us to convey this truth to our nation's students? You want all those newly-anointed poor black victims to be thinking "neve...