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My text never assumed anything about me being rational or someone being irrational. It proposed that if someone is irrational, they seem to be hard to...
December 20, 2019 at 16:54
Well, I don't have a very complex stance on this problem. Personally, I think it's a general problem in the world that we concentrate on what people b...
December 20, 2019 at 16:49
I started this thread very clearly with very few arguments in one way or another. It is clearly a thread to start a discussion and it clearly is about...
December 20, 2019 at 14:13
Not that I have been very active in these kinds of forums for very long, but I have not yet seen a single active discussion about this precise issue: ...
December 20, 2019 at 13:42
Fundamentally, I don't think that most philosophers care where an idea came from. Even if it came from intuition, it will still be evaluated if it see...
December 20, 2019 at 13:35
Well, of course the human condition should be taken into account, since we are seemingly unable to completely control it. And I personally emphasize k...
December 13, 2019 at 16:41
Well, you seem to disregard any point I make about intelligence until I give a robust definition for intelligence, which I can't do. Understandable, I...
December 13, 2019 at 13:46
This is an interesting point. And I somewhat agree with it. Although, we do have guite a lot of ways to measure things associated with intelligence ob...
December 13, 2019 at 06:05
I do agree that a person who is not that intelligent is in a precarious situation. An intelligent person can identify true intelligence with his intel...
December 11, 2019 at 11:48
Agreed... There are many things that evolution makes us distrustful of. But intelligence is peculiar in that practically all the systems we use to ach...
December 11, 2019 at 10:05
I do agree that no one ever says it out aloud or even thinks consciously that he distrusts someone because that person is intelligent. But the distrus...
December 11, 2019 at 09:58
Well, the point of the text isn't to venerate science specifically, but to consider the fact that people have a natural distrust of intelligence. I'll...
December 11, 2019 at 09:34
I do agree that functionally "Something exists" is a useful realization. But when we don't consider it's utility for us and just consider whether bein...
December 09, 2019 at 13:46
When writing "predict", I actually thought of using the word "evaluate", but it simply felt a little off. I agree that I probably should have used "ev...
December 09, 2019 at 13:31
You seem to think there is something particular about "something exists" as a logical necessity since being mistaken about it is also a logical imposs...
December 09, 2019 at 13:02
Think of it this way: you are using logic against an argument where the whole point is that we can always fail at logic. Logical necessity of existenc...
December 09, 2019 at 12:26
No, I do accept it philosophically, since I do consider logical necessities the highest form of proof. I just don't think even showing something to be...
December 09, 2019 at 12:00
So it is impossible that you have just evaluated all of your experiences, thoughts, definitions of certainty and existence and proofs and everything e...
December 09, 2019 at 11:56
Well, this is starting to repeat itself since I would counterargue with the exact same argument and your counterarguments also seem very similar.
December 09, 2019 at 11:46
Okay, you clearly don't get the point of my argument. Your derivations are logically valid, but our evaluations that they are logically valid, includi...
December 09, 2019 at 11:42
Or one can simply be mistaken in that evaluation.
December 09, 2019 at 11:37
Don't misrepresent. I said:"if fallibility is accepted as a possibility". Therefore nothing is accepted as true or existing.
December 09, 2019 at 11:31
I agree with you that we lack a good definition for general intelligence. But as my example of a thing that is clearly as intelligent as us but can't ...
December 09, 2019 at 11:26
If fallibility is accepted as a possibility, then even "something exists" is not absolutely necessarily true, since one could just be failing to under...
December 09, 2019 at 11:15
Mirroring is anything where the way you are is used to predict the way something else is. For example in our language, we just assume that our associa...
December 09, 2019 at 10:55
If the "natural language" is specifically defined not to use mirroring, I might agree with the broader definition of the Turing test. Mirroring would ...
December 09, 2019 at 10:42
Yes, and that is exactly a form of communication that doesn't use mirroring - a logical language which is based on definitions. Definitions don't need...
December 09, 2019 at 10:22
I very much disagree with that our definition of general intelligence should be associated with the Turing test. That would be the same as defining "a...
December 09, 2019 at 09:39
The problem isn't that evolution doesn't cause things to converge on large scales. The problem is that evolution never creates any kinds of "ultimate"...
December 09, 2019 at 09:29
A good point. But we have to understand that our evolutionary history with animals is not just similar - it is for the large part the exact same histo...
December 09, 2019 at 08:17
The mirroring isn't just about associations which can be learned. It's also about the way things are just processed by the brain of your species. For ...
December 09, 2019 at 08:04
I'm actually talking about fluent conversation here - like what would pass a Turing test. But I do agree, that while it would always be slow and awkwa...
December 09, 2019 at 07:43
I'm not actually saying that no aliens are similar enough to use mirroring with us - just that us coming into contact with those particular very rare ...
December 09, 2019 at 07:03
This also means that the Turing test is a bad test for general intelligence. It just tests whether or not something is programmed in way that can clos...
December 09, 2019 at 05:43
This system is not about straight up solving the is-ought gap since I think that it is unsolvable. This system is about bypassing it by giving a funct...
December 09, 2019 at 02:08
I guess that is true about any non-expertise irregardless of how simple the subject is, but I would still give an advantage to personal satisfaction, ...
December 09, 2019 at 01:19
I never said it justifies anything. It solves the problem of justifying ones choice of goals by bypassing it. Something that is not a choice doesn't n...
December 08, 2019 at 15:36
This I disagree with. At least I haven't met any system that solves the problem of justifying your choice of goals. And I also disagree with that this...
December 08, 2019 at 11:58
In the very same responte, khaled says that my system prescribes a course of action for every circumstance - just that it does not give simple univers...
December 07, 2019 at 16:56
In this model the closest equivalent to a "form" is a possibility which is a logically possible state that can be. In this model information limits of...
December 07, 2019 at 03:29
Hmmhhh... I must admit that I don't really understand what you are trying say. This model doesn't really deal with the nature of truth itself. It deal...
December 06, 2019 at 09:24
Well the derivations can be justified from circumstance to circumstance. It's just complicated, not undoable. Nothing forces this system to make gener...
December 05, 2019 at 09:31
"Choosing goals to achieve goals is an unarbitrary way of choosing ones values and desires based on a logically necessary goal of achieving ones goals...
December 05, 2019 at 08:38
No that doesn't make unarbitrary value judgements since the whole premise is arbitrary. The whole point of my system is that its premise is not arbitr...
December 05, 2019 at 08:27
Except your willful actions can still be wrong. If you make an action that makes you temporarily more stable, but that decreases your stability in the...
December 05, 2019 at 06:44
Okay, you are trying to make me either create objective goals (things you use the word "should" for) or say that this is not a moral system. As I have...
December 05, 2019 at 06:29
So it still seems that we disagree on the nature of the word "should". To me your "moral should" is the same as "according to this objective goal so a...
December 04, 2019 at 23:47
I agree... human mind is programmed to work in a very specific environment. Lack of stimuli would be such a huge change of that environment that it wo...
December 04, 2019 at 18:27
And being in a state you don't want to change doesn't mean that you are just lying in your bed doing nothing. When having sex many people are in a sta...
December 04, 2019 at 18:23
And what happens to the alternative sources of information that actually start creating anti-error and anti-corruption systems to themselves? They bec...
December 04, 2019 at 18:10