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I do not see any paradox described in your OP. Wikipedia is written by people who typically do not fully understand what they're confidently pronounci...

That's fighting talk. So come on, boyo, arguments are appallingly bad in two ways; they can be invalid or they can have false premises. Which one is i...

What are you on about? The 'west' is not a worldview, it's just the practice of using reason to find out what's true, as opposed to making shit up or ...

Because it's not relevant to my argument. My argument's conclusion is normative. The claim that morality requires God is a metaethical claim. Look, Hu...

It is self-evident that those who have done nothing do not deserve to come to harm. You don't challenge that claim by confirming it. You have just sai...

Quite.

Again, how on earth is any of that implied by my argument? I have said that innocent persons deserve respect, good will, the promotion of their happin...

My argument does not assume free will. Free will is something a person needs if they're to be able to affect what they deserve. And free will enables ...

THe argument is in the OP. You people seem to have all the intellectual focus of a sparrow. The argument is that people are created innocent and thus ...

How are they vacuous? It's not vacuous to say that a person who has done nothing is innocent and thus does not deserve to come to any harm. Such claim...

I did. See the OP. No, you clearly don't understand what words mean. Don't try and paraphrase me. You don't have the comprehension skills necessary.

No. I am simply asking you to acknowledge that your reason confirms that innocent people deserve good will, respect, and happiness. And they do not de...

Do you dispute it? Do you think that others do not deserve respect, good will and happiness? Consult your reason. God. I just told you that. Pay atten...

You're not focusing on my argument but raising broader questions to do with the nature of morality. Moral desert is a feature of morality. Any plausib...

The notion of desert I am appealing to is retributive. A retributivist believes that sometimes a person can come to deserve to come to harm. One does ...

No I'm not. I'm talking about MORAL desert. Christ. Do pay attention. Er, what? No it isn't. Read. The. OP.

To be innocent 'just is' to be undeserving of harm. As I keep saying. It's not an argument, but a premise in an argument. If you think that the claim ...

What's that got to do with my argument? Which premise are you trying to dispute with it? Note, there's a general point about when a person is morally ...

Again, you're not making any sense. Address the argument in the OP. You're just saying stuff.

Yes we do. So, you're seriously claiming that it's reasonable to believe that a person here will lead an entirely harm-free life? That's insane. Note ...

Yes. If people decide not to procreate, then the species will go extinct. Do you think people do not have the right to make that decision? If every wo...

Reason is not strong with this one. If nobody deserves anything (an incredibly silly assertion), then nobody deserves to come to harm. Therefore newly...

Yes it does. Animals are innocent too. But why bring animals into the equation? Regardless of the status of animals, my argument is that those whom hu...

That's not the claim. They don't deserve to suffer. They will though. So it's wrong to create a situation like that - voluntarily to create a situatio...

i can't discern a coherent criticism in what you wrote.

So you agree that newly born babies do not deserve to come to harm and you agree that they will come to harm. So you agree, do you, that we ought not ...

It's not ironic. I argue things. Most others don't. When I point out that others are not arguing anything or engaging with anything I have argued, tha...

If nobody deserves anything, then nobody deserves to come to harm, do they? Think it through. So it seems you do think that babies do not deserve to c...

And do you agree that a newly born baby will experience some harm?

Why's that ironic? Are you Alanis Morrissette?

I made an argument in the OP. Which premise do you dispute? Do you think that a newly born baby deserves to come to harm?

So you find following an argument painful. No doubt that's why you don't do it.

No you didn't. Be clear. Do you think newly born babies deserve to come to harm?

Which premise are you denying?

That wasn't my argument. Focus on my argument, not any old argument that has vaguely antinatalist implications. No it isn't. I am arguing that it is w...

No I am not. The legal notion presupposes the moral notion. If you haven't done anything of your own free will, then you do not deserve to come to har...

Yes it does. The only exception is harm an innocent person freely decides to visit on themselves. Harm that an innocent has done to themselves (and do...

There are numerous arguments that imply the antinatalist conclusion. This one is distinct from the consent argument though. One is guilty of using ano...

What dichotomy? Here are my claims and you tell me which one is bizarre. Don't make up stuff and attribute it to me just because it makes sense to you...

SO you think babies deserve to suffer? Clarify whether you think babies are innocent? Yes or no? It's yes, right? And that means they do not deserve t...

And you are just declaring that. You are just declaring that. You are just declaring that. You are just declaring that. You are just declaring that. A...

It's just what it is to be innocent. Bachelors do not have wives. Why? That's just what a bachelor is - a wifeless man. And an innocent person 'just i...

Did Mr Chesterton have any views on whether one can use moldy lemons to make a lemon meringue pie? I mean, I want to get something useful out of this ...

Your car is broken and so you're going to have a kid? What?

Do try and focus on the question. The question was whether an innocent person deserves to come to harm. And the answer is 'no'.

No, the answer is just 'no'. It's a conceptual truth. Innocent people do not deserve to come to harm. If they did, then they wouldn't be 'innocent'. T...

That's the only bit that's relevant in your reply. Now, moving on, does an innocent person deserve to come to harm?

Can I still use them to make a lemon meringue pie? I wonder. Look, which premise do you dispute? Shall we go through them? Do you think a newly born b...

My lemons are moldy. Are you going to address the argument or are we just going to exchange mindless observations?

You clearly don't know how arguments work.