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Appearances ARE the evidence. Jesus!
July 14, 2022 at 06:53
Certainly. Here: You are simply assuming that materialism is true and then concluding that the appearance of presentness is illusion. That's to assume...
July 14, 2022 at 06:48
No. How? The sensible world appears to exist outside of our minds, yes? He concludes that it does. Not that it doesn't. That it does - it does exist o...
July 14, 2022 at 06:42
You haven't answered my question - if there's a giant ball and you're tiny by comparison and are stood on a tiny bit of it, how would things look from...
July 14, 2022 at 00:56
Look up 'default'. Also imagine how a huge ball would look if you were extremely tiny and on it. And finally, recognize that on Berkeley's view the wo...
July 13, 2022 at 21:43
In the OP.
July 13, 2022 at 21:35
The mind-independent material objects bit. That's a worldview. That's not an appearance. There appears to be an external sensible world, yes? Whether ...
July 13, 2022 at 21:26
Oh bloody hell, will you get with the programme!? I am arguing that 'if p, then q'. I am then arguing that not q. Not q here means I am arguing that o...
July 13, 2022 at 21:25
You are not reading him or me carefully. I did not claim that the external sensible world exists unpercieved, and nor does he. He argues, as would I, ...
July 13, 2022 at 20:32
I don't think you're following correctly. Do you agree that to assume a worldview right at the outset and then to interpret all appearances in light o...
July 13, 2022 at 16:15
No it doesn't. You're attacking a straw man. Berkeley concluded that the objects of experience exist outside of our own minds. And he concluded this p...
July 13, 2022 at 16:08
Really? What argument is that? So what? That's not how philosophy works. Incidentally, if there's no absolute present, there's no present. And those w...
July 13, 2022 at 13:58
if you want to define desert as a turnip and then conclude that my argument doesn't work because your ignorant definition turns it into nonsense, have...
July 13, 2022 at 07:04
So? So? See OP for details of how the case works.
July 13, 2022 at 03:34
No, it was to help you see that I was arguing 'not p' rather than 'p'. If someone is arguing that if p, then q - and then they proceed to explain why ...
July 13, 2022 at 03:30
That's not what you said. You implied that the idea that appearances are default justified 'is' idealism. No it isn't. It's an epistemological thesis ...
July 13, 2022 at 03:20
Again with the six second comprehension span! That's called 'individual subjectivism' about the present. It's a form of idealism about the present. It...
July 13, 2022 at 02:04
Yes, I know. The time lag argument is not decisive, for it is at least possible that our impressions of presentness are systematically inaccurate. I e...
July 13, 2022 at 02:01
Yes, that just serves to underline the point. Killing yourself to save others from a similar fate is - sometimes - rational because it is sometimes th...
July 13, 2022 at 01:48
If death ends your suffering, then it's hard to see how it would be so harmful that only extreme unending agony in this world could make it in one's i...
July 13, 2022 at 01:33
Moral norms. Antinatalism is the view that it is immoral, or default immoral (for there may be exceptional cases) to procreate.
July 13, 2022 at 01:23
Look, to be honest I don't think you can hold onto a view for more than 6 seconds. When you say that x is present for me, what do you mean? Do you mea...
July 13, 2022 at 01:19
Toughen up, snowflake. Now, the present is not individually subjective. Let's say it is, though. That would then amount to a form of idealism about th...
July 13, 2022 at 01:05
Presentness is not individually subjective. You, like virtually everyone here, keep confusing 'appears to me to be' with 'is'. There is 'the' present....
July 13, 2022 at 00:40
And now explain to me how an event can occur at t1 and yet not be present at t1? Explain what 'occurs' means in this context without mentioning it bei...
July 13, 2022 at 00:39
No, if materialism is true, then our impressions of presentness are systematically inaccurate. So, if p, then q. The default is that our impressions a...
July 13, 2022 at 00:37
Er, no I haven't. You mean you can't explain to me how an event can occur at t1 and not be present at t1? What a surprise! If an event occurs at t1, t...
July 12, 2022 at 23:19
I don't see how you are engaging with the op
July 12, 2022 at 22:08
Refuse to acknowledge what you were saying?? Er, no. I acknowledged what you were saying and explained how it is incoherent nonsense. You think that i...
July 12, 2022 at 22:05
I explained in the OP. Look, if you just take materialism for granted and then interpret data in light of it, then you are not doing philosophy. That'...
July 12, 2022 at 22:01
That's a difference of degree, not kind. Remember: innocent people do not deserve any harm. Any. No, it's not an 'assertion'. It's a 'conclusion'. The...
July 12, 2022 at 05:28
That makes no difference - that's the point. It's like saying that my analogy is not a good one because you would have ordered a pepperoni pizza and n...
July 12, 2022 at 05:10
That's not the question. The argument in the OP does not assume that life is not worth living. You seem studiously to be ignoring the actual argument ...
July 12, 2022 at 05:03
That's NOT pessimism. Again, everything I am saying is entirely consistent with whatever rosy outlook you have. There isn't a shred of pessimism in th...
July 12, 2022 at 02:33
It doesn't have to be possible. That's not going to affect whether it is undeserved or not. Note too that none of the harms that will inevitable occur...
July 12, 2022 at 02:09
You're misusing the word incoherent. I am not claiming that a happy harm free life is possible. I don't think it is (not in a world like this, anyway)...
July 12, 2022 at 01:54
Again, what you're doing here is pointing out that the pizza is mainly delicious, despite having a poo on it. You ordered a cheese pizza and so that's...
July 12, 2022 at 01:49
I don't know what you're saying there. You straw manned me. You addressed an argument I did not make. There is no pessimistic premise in my argument. ...
July 12, 2022 at 01:35
That's question begging. You don't owe them a thing. They owe you. They owe you a happy harm free life - which is something they can't even come close...
July 12, 2022 at 01:29
Imagine you order a pizza and pay upfront. The pizza that is delivered has a shit on it. You phone up the restaurant to complain that what they delive...
July 12, 2022 at 01:16
They deserve much, much more than this. That's part of the point. They deserve no harm whatsoever. Not some harm and some benefit. No harm. Ziltch. Na...
July 12, 2022 at 01:13
Yes, an innocent person is born deserving no harm at all and positively deserving a happy life. So, they are born deserving a harm-free happy life. Th...
July 12, 2022 at 01:06
Why are you expressing it like that? It's not about you - the one who has been born. You don't have an obligation not to have been born - how would yo...
July 12, 2022 at 00:59
That's a premise that I take to be self-evident - indeed, it's a conceptual truth. Not when we're born, no. We can subsequently do things to make ours...
July 12, 2022 at 00:50
Relevance? You've CONFIRMED one of my premises. Which one are you challenging? That's invalid. 4 is not the conclusion that follows from 1,2 and 3. Wh...
July 12, 2022 at 00:44
How does any of that address anything in my OP? Your first line just confirms one of my premises. The rest is entirely irrelevant.
July 12, 2022 at 00:41
I take the lack of reply to mean that you now accept that the time lag argument - my version of it - goes through? There is a sensation of presentness...
July 12, 2022 at 00:41
Yeah, clap clap clap - argument p is a shite argument for q, Bartricks holds that q is true, therefore Bartricks made the shite argument. I'm a good r...
July 12, 2022 at 00:32
What you've done is address a stupid argument that I did not make. The argument you've addressed is this one: Xtrix is unhappy and doesn't like his/he...
July 12, 2022 at 00:30
A little help for you - you need to argue that actual normative reasons can kill people or somehow render them infertile. Duck! Blimey - that was clos...
July 11, 2022 at 00:37