Bartricks

So moral values are not themselves valued.

Yes, to say that something is valuable, I think, is to say that it is featuring as the object of a valuing relation. So there's the valuer - who is th...

yes, the first premise does not express the conclusion. I am unclear what it could be for something to be valuable yet not be the object of a valuing ...

Well it is nice to have opinions. But yours are all false as my argument demonstrates, doesn't it!!

No, the argument is not circular if that's what you mean.

I am not watching any videos. Refute my argument and stop expressing your opinions - they count for nothing at all.

What would you have me call her?

No, not positing, concluding. See the argument for details.

Because: 1. Moral prescriptions are prescriptions of Reason 2. Moral prescriptions are the prescriptions of a subject 3. Therefore moral prescriptions...

A subject. The one described in conclusion 9 above. The one whose values constitute moral values; the one among whose prescriptions are moral prescrip...

What do you mean by an 'ontological context'? What am I not realizing?

ONce more, I stress that you and others blankly stating that something is false does not constitute counter-evidence. You're not gods - thank god - an...

Yes, that is my position and I think it is well supported. I keep telling you that I am a moral realist. I am unclear how you think you're making a 'c...

The argument is more interesting than me.

I don't understand the question

To be valuing something is to be adopting some kind of positive attitude towards it. So, when you say "ice cream is good' that is not a value, that is...

I am not sure I understand your question. None of our values - that is no valuing of ours, no valuing activity that we may be engaged in - are moral v...

I think you are an arrogant one, I really do. But to be honest i couldn't care less what you think of me - as should be obvious - and i am surprised y...

Ah, because I said that most moral philosophers agree that moral norms and values are categorical and you sought to refute me by, bizzarely, providing...

I am a moral realist, yes. That, I think, has never seriously been in doubt. Your point? For I said that most moral philosophers agree that moral norm...

I have to be honest, I was initially impressed by all those symbols and I thought I was done and dusted, for they were all Greek to me. And so I repli...

No, those aren't beliefs. You can call them beliefs, but that won't make them beliefs. Beliefs have to be believed. And only minds - subjects of exper...

I am not playing (you are, as ever, extremely bad at drawing conclusions). But as you are, I am not responding to you any more. And as you've given me...

Something is made morally valuable by her valuing it, for what it is for something to be valuable is for her to be valuing it. Crickey. She knows more...

Ah, sorry - that was a typo on my part. The first premise, using your ice cream example, would be this: 1. If my values are moral values, then if I va...

I have answered your question. A question I have answered numerous times before and that you could have read the argument and seen the answer to. Reas...

I have answered numerous times. Yes. You: what do you mean by 'yes'. Do you mean 'turnip'? Answer my fucking question!!!. Me: no, I mean 'yes'. You: I...

I don't know what you mean by an 'objective belief'. I am not following you. I have defined 'subjective' as meaning 'made of a subject's mental states...

No, I can't do that. Not sophisticated enough - sorry. If water and gold are one and the same, then if I have some gold I necessarily have some water,...

But you're not challenging anything I've argued.

I know more than you do about how value works. See my argument for details (although take a course in logic first or it won't make sense)

I think it is quite clear what I am arguing here - i am defending, indeed demonstrating, that subjectivism about moral values is true. How far the sub...

Buddy Rich.

i'm not. Dingo Jones is. I am cool as a cucumber. I just think most people couldn't care less where an argument leads if it leads to a view they don't...

are you seriously saying I haven't presented arguments? Blimey - do you even know what one is? I have presented arguments - good ones. Sound ones. The...

of course it matters. Nothing incoherent about my premises.

Some typos there due to my phone presumpively but wrongly predicting my words

I assume your working definition of a troll is 'someone I don't agree with or understand yet who argues in accordance with the canons of reason and wh...

well you're not coping well are you. Go write my name on a pillow or something and hit it a few times and then see if you can raise a reasonable objec...

yes, the subject - the one whose values are moral values - is an experiencer. A subject of experiences. Like me. Like you. And what - what - is your o...

Here's a quote from Bertrand Russell that I quite like - it's about why we shouldn't trust Xenephon's version of Socrates' Apology. "“A stupid man's r...

And don't start talking to me about the Euthyphro dialogue. You haven't read it, have you? I think I'm the only one here who actually has. What you've...

Okay for the umpteenth time - the subject is....wait for it......a subject. A subject of experiences. You know, what you are. What I am. Like, the mos...

No, you just don't know what you think you know. You can be a moral realist and deny the categoricity of moral norms and values. You can be a moral ni...

You're confusing the expression of a belief with the belief itself. If I write on a piece of paper that "I believe it is Sunday" I have not created a ...

Read my definition - the one operative here. Beliefs are subjective, becusae beliefs are mental states and mental states are states of a subject. Agai...

You haven't read Joyce. Or you read him in Albanian or something. Joyce believes that it is the mark of a moral imperative that it is categorical. Lik...

How on earth can you think that?? Missed completely. I mean, hurled the hammer through the window.

Er, no I haven't. The original argument refers to any of your valuings. If it works with any of your valuings, then it is also going to work with a su...

That's not the first premise. The first premise expresses the thesis of individual subjectivism. So, using your ice cream example, the first premise w...