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No doubt.

A field of strawmen not worth setting ablaze. :smirk:

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My position is that it's (more) reasonable to be "confident" only in those experiences and facts which we do not have compelling (more-than-subjective...

To start with, I suspect it comes down to each writer's practiced instincts for exploring ambiguity and for clarifying in spite of ambiguity, respecti...

:fire: At best your post is disingenuous since "the question" is merely rhetorical given my previously stated philosophical commitments. Again, ucarr,...

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Excellent. :fire:

In other words, that which is ineluctable, involuntary and/or immanent (encompassing) is real. All else are either (incidental) properties or (cogniti...

I'm not 'meta' enough about TPF itself as a specimen of online social media.

So what's your point, Bob?

I lost my religion (i.e. ritualized magical thinking) @15 and became godless. I'm even more godless now @60 after decades of readings in e.g. cultural...

I clicked the link but I didn't bother watching. Twelve years of primary & seconary Jesuit education (four years of Latin, one year of Greek) and in p...

https://youtu.be/8r-e2NDSTuE?si=YO1NkcnoKcJSD0Bc

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Perhap orga is only mecha's way of – raison d'être for – making more mecha. :smirk:

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Thanks. I do not see a basis for "the epistemic challenge". Consider my more explanatory post linked at the top of the post to which you've responded

Exactly.

With or without AGI+, meat payloads are not – never have been or will be – mission critical. :smirk:

So god created suffering in order to help – torture – us sufferers to strive to become "perfect"? Sounds like apologetic gibberish. :mask:

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Yes, then you agree that the answer to thread's question is god creates suffering and therefore, that god is, in effect, indistinguishable from the de...

... where no Artilect has gone before. :nerd: :smirk: :up:

Suffering is an ineluctable aspect of the world; if g/G created the world, then g/G created suffering (e.g. creatures devouring one another in order t...

Public evidence.

Or, better yet: Is anything we say or claim about "god" (any deity) that is demonstrably true and therefore consistent with the world (existence) as w...

Same here. As far as I'm concerned, all worship is idolatry and worshippers – religious believers – are idolators.

If you (somehow) knew that there is at least one god, do you think you would still be unable to believe in god?

Why can't we know there are no gods? :chin:

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Agreed.

I appreciate the reply; it's word-salad to me though. Like I said before: we're not physicists (and it shows); my philosophical bias is to reject as p...

I agree. We (TPF) benefit from both discussions and creative expressions. :cool: Yes, I'd prefer a picaresque novel to a strictly progressive, bildung...

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I love R. Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy (though not so much GRR Martin's GoT slog – I never made it pass the first two volumes a decade bef...

"Good" -- for what? How about: "darkness" is good for seeing the stars, or good for sleeping, or good for prey avoiding predators, or good for cooling...

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With respect to the quotes above, I referred explicitly to your groundless notions (e.g. "super-nature", "causal non-closure of the universe", "instan...

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:roll: You might find this youtube interesting ... https://youtu.be/Hkez73WkxXA?si=YgHEZpuaXfL-yJFN

Have you read the even a few pages of this thread? If so, can you point to examples of "gross trivialization" of H just because he was an unapologetic...

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A guess from pp1 & 2 of this thread... https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/790451 https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/7906...

I'm confident, Bret, it's rejected as woo woo by most (almost all) scientists. :mask:

:fire: :hearts: Your youtube link suggests maybe I/we are persuading you that we're circling the drain of our own ten thousand year making ... :smirk:...

The question makes no sense since the universe is itself – is constituted by – space(time). Where (or when) is the universe? :roll: